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Cool Hand Linc Intermediate Crude


Joined: Apr 17, 2004 Posts: 984 Location: Tulsa, Ok
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Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 10:02 pm Post subject: Minimal preparedness |
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I was reading a letter from my senator and saw this web site. I believe this is the minimum level of preparedness for we average citizens.
http://www.ready.gov/index2.html
Do you have the minimum amount of water on hand? Food?
Even if you don't believe in post peak anarchy. This is a recommendation from our government. _________________ Peace out!
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Jack Dark Lord


Joined: Aug 11, 2004 Posts: 5088
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Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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A case of 12 MRE's works well. Each meal is about 1500 calories - so it's entirely possible to go for 12 days on a case. Even if you want 2 meals per day (almost 3000 calories), one case provides for two people for three days.
And supermarkets sell bottled water in a variety of containers... |
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Terran Heavy Crude


Joined: Jul 07, 2004 Posts: 434 Location: Berkeley CA
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Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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For some reason we eat rice I guess it's my culture, and we buy them in 50 pound bags. We also happan to store food that stores for a long time, and we don't eat it, it piles up in the cabnets. My freezer is packed full with meat.
We have water stored in a few gallon jugs. Even if there's an emergency, there will be a little bit of food.
My parents happen to had stored 3 liters of honey in the cabnet too. We just happan to buy more food than we consume so it piles up. _________________ my page:
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lowem Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Jul 19, 2004 Posts: 1173 Location: Singapore
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 1:56 am Post subject: |
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| Jack wrote: | | And supermarkets sell bottled water in a variety of containers... |
Ah, was meaning to ask about that. Anyone knows, if we were to buy water in those usual plastic bottles, how long can we safely store it until we actually need to drink it? 6 months? 1 year? 3? Forever? _________________ Live quotes - crude oil, gold and currencies
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Jack Dark Lord


Joined: Aug 11, 2004 Posts: 5088
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 2:14 am Post subject: |
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[quote="lowem"] | Jack wrote: | | Ah, was meaning to ask about that. Anyone knows, if we were to buy water in those usual plastic bottles, how long can we safely store it until we actually need to drink it? 6 months? 1 year? 3? Forever? |
I've had 3+ year old water (I forgot it at the back of the refrigerator ) and I'm still here.  |
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Jack Dark Lord


Joined: Aug 11, 2004 Posts: 5088
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 2:15 am Post subject: |
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| Terran wrote: | | For some reason we eat rice I guess it's my culture, and we buy them in 50 pound bags. |
Serious question - how will you cook the rice, assuming the usual power supply mechanisms are unavailable? |
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Permanently_Baffled Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Aug 12, 2004 Posts: 1180 Location: England
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 3:55 am Post subject: |
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| Jack wrote: | | Terran wrote: | | For some reason we eat rice I guess it's my culture, and we buy them in 50 pound bags. |
Serious question - how will you cook the rice, assuming the usual power supply mechanisms are unavailable? |
Have you never had raw rice? , its lovely !  _________________ Peak Oil? crap Happens ! |
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mmm Tar Sands


Joined: Jul 05, 2004 Posts: 37
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 4:06 am Post subject: bottled water |
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There's a dirty little secret about bottled water that most people are not aware of it. It has a very limited shelf life.
Sounds absurd, right? The problem is that almost all bottled water is sanitized with ozone -- to avoid the flavor/taint added by chlorination. Ozone does not kill everything, and it does nothing to keep the microbe population down over time (it is a one-shot killing of germs at the time it is bottled). After about 6 weeks, about 25% of bottled water is so contaminated by bacteria that it would be considered unsafe to drink -- given a boil order, in other words -- if it was flowing through your pipes to your tap.
So anyone who is keeping bottled water and not rotating the stock completely within a few weeks has the potential of storing up a bacterial soup. |
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clv101 Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Jun 02, 2004 Posts: 1078 Location: Bristol, UK
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 4:34 am Post subject: |
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| Is it possible to buy 'clean' long life water? |
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Aaron 800 lb Gorilla

Joined: Apr 15, 2004 Posts: 6412 Location: Houston
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 6:16 am Post subject: |
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"Cover your mouth and nose with layers of fabric that can filter the air but still allow breathing."
lol _________________ "When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." - Stephen F Roberts.
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born2respawn Heavy Crude


Joined: Jul 15, 2004 Posts: 205 Location: Britain
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 8:25 am Post subject: |
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I'm good: Got a load of bottled water and tinned food still knocking around in the lift, been there for years but I reckon it's good to go.
Interestingly, the "Preparing for Emergencies" booklet the UK Gov't released doesn't mention storing a certain amount of food, just reccomends it. Mind you, I've seen a police officer toss a copy in the bin without a second look, which says a lot about it. |
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Cool Hand Linc Intermediate Crude


Joined: Apr 17, 2004 Posts: 984 Location: Tulsa, Ok
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 11:34 pm Post subject: water |
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I think the shelf life of water will depend on what type of water you store. If it was filtered properly then it should be good.
I have several bottles of water purification tables that can be used to kill of any bad guys that might have grown because of long term storage.
I thought this web site interesting to say the least. Preparidness for right now not waiting for post peak to occur.
I do think it stirs thought in many people. I have enjoyed telling people about this site and asking them if they have looked at it. They always return with some good debate at some level or another. _________________ Peace out!
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Pops Moderator


Joined: Apr 03, 2004 Posts: 6571 Location: My Grandkids' Farm
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 6:44 am Post subject: |
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A little unscented bleach added to your water, stored in an air tight container away from sunlight can last quite a while, lots of info in the Food Storage download here: http://www.peakoil.com/downcat2.html _________________ Make a plan and work it: |
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Cool Hand Linc Intermediate Crude


Joined: Apr 17, 2004 Posts: 984 Location: Tulsa, Ok
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 7:24 am Post subject: bleaCH |
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One table spoon of bleach to a gallon of water makes a sanitizer. Look to you local health department. I am sure if this will sanitize it will kill germs for drinking.
*Ratio of Clorox Bleach to Water for Purification
2 drops of Regular Clorox Bleach per quart of water
8 drops of Regular Clorox Bleach per gallon of water
1/2 teaspoon Regular Clorox Bleach per five gallons of water
If water is cloudy, double the recommended dosages of Clorox Bleach.
(Only use Regular Clorox Bleach (not Fresh Scent or Lemon Fresh). To insure that Clorox Bleach is at its full strength, replace your storage bottle every three months.)
**(Clorox Bleach Sanitizing Solution)
Mix 1 tablespoon Regular Clorox Bleach with one gallon of water. Always wash and rinse items first, then let each item soak in Clorox Bleach Sanitizing Solution for 2 minutes. Drain and air dry.
Sanitizing is important knowledge if any pathogens are present.
Also see: http://www.newjerusalem.com/PureWater.htm _________________ Peace out!
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