Joined: May 26, 2004 Posts: 309 Location: Ontario, Canada
Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 5:14 pm Post subject: Permaculture - perfect Peak Oil prep training?
White I was reading the Canadian Green Party website, I came accross a term I'd never heard before: Permaculture
I did some quick googling, http://www.permaculture.net/ was the top of the list, but even it's full page list of definitions couldn't make clear exactly what permaculture is. Just seems to be some personal/community level, sustainable living and farming movement. Most importantly, there are books and workshops and courses on the subject.
Is anyone else familiar with this? I mean, if there are people out there giving formalized lessons on sustainable farming, energy efficent self-sustaining homes, etc., sounds like just the sort of thing to prepare for a peak oil world.
Does anyone have some experience on the subject? Could spread some light on it for the rest of us? _________________ "Our forces are now closer to the center of Baghdad than most American commuters are to their downtown office."
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Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 5:33 pm Post subject:
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WC, I think a simple definition, at least ag wise, is to plant perennials. Trees, vines, permanent pasture, etc, avoid constant soil loss and (important here) oil inputs. In addition, multi-cropping can reduce pest and disease by mimicking a natural system as much as possible. _________________ Make a plan and work it:
Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 6:44 pm Post subject: more than that...
WhiteCrab - you are more right than you know! Permaculture, at least the vision put forward by one of it's co-originators, David Holmgren, is being developed largely as a response to peak oil. The first section of Holmgren's 2002 book, Permaculture: Principles and Pathways Beyond Sustainability is something of a peak oil primer. Energy systems modelling is one of permacultures theoretical underpinnings. He says something along the lines of: in as much as permaculture principles provide a useful response to energy descent, they will move towards the cultural and political mainstream.
I recently interviewed him about peak oil, and will post a transcript soon on the new website:
www.energybulletin.net
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