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k_semler Light Sweet Crude

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Joined: May 17, 2004 Posts: 1969 Location: Democratic People's Republic of Washington
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:35 pm Post subject: What type of car to get? |
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Given the ever increasing price of fuel, (now up to $2.839/gal 89 octane), it is now to the point that I must downsize my vehicle. I would like a vehicle that gets 30+ MPG, but I have a few requirements.
1. The vehicle must be heavy enough to plow through 2 foot drifts easily.
2. Preferably 4wd.
3. Must be able to go 65 up the Lewiston hill, (7% grade for 10 miles).
4. Preferably automatic w/ OD transmission
5. Must be under $2500
Does anyone have a vehicle in mind which would suit my needs? Or am I stuck with my 1981 Oldsmobile Delta 88 Coupe? _________________ Here Lies the United States Of America.
July 04, 1776 - June 23 2005
Epitaph: "The Experiment Is Over."
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hoplite Heavy Crude


Joined: Oct 22, 2004 Posts: 300
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:46 pm Post subject: Re: What type of car to get? |
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| your vehicle has not been invented yet...ie; 30mpg and 4wd are mutually exclusive methinks |
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Dukat_Reloaded Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Jul 31, 2005 Posts: 1009
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:51 pm Post subject: Re: What type of car to get? |
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Isn't buying a car rather like buying a dodo bird cage?
1. The vehicle must be heavy enough to plow through 2 foot drifts easily.
Yeah, a heavy vechical uses more fuel.
2. Preferably 4wd.
4 wheel Drive cars use more fuel than 2 wheel drive cars
3. Must be able to go 65 up the Lewiston hill, (7% grade for 10 miles).
The faster you drive the more fuel you will use up in relation to miles. If you drove at 40mh you would get better fuel economy.
4. Preferably automatic w/ OD transmission
Automatics use more fuel than a manual car, approx 10% more.
5. Must be under $2500
Don't you mean "Must be under $2500 and a piece of crap."
Good luck trying to save gas money. |
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meekoil Heavy Crude


Joined: Jul 11, 2005 Posts: 120
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:03 pm Post subject: Re: What type of car to get? |
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| I suggest something like this. |
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k_semler Light Sweet Crude

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Joined: May 17, 2004 Posts: 1969 Location: Democratic People's Republic of Washington
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:17 pm Post subject: Re: What type of car to get? |
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Well crap, it seems like my "dream" car hasn't been invented yet. Damn it. How about with the exact same qualifiers, but 25 MPG instead? It MUST be heavier than my old 1989 Ford Mustang LX. If it drifted a foot, it got stuck. What I am pretty much looking for is my car now, but much better gas mileage. That is the only area that I am now lacking in. (Well, I do have 148,950 miles on it too.) _________________ Here Lies the United States Of America.
July 04, 1776 - June 23 2005
Epitaph: "The Experiment Is Over."
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Dukat_Reloaded Light Sweet Crude


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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:30 pm Post subject: Re: What type of car to get? |
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| Instead of buying a heavy car, why not buy a light one and when you need it to be heavy, fill the boot up with rocks or bricks. |
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k_semler Light Sweet Crude

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Joined: May 17, 2004 Posts: 1969 Location: Democratic People's Republic of Washington
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:38 pm Post subject: Re: What type of car to get? |
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More steel = more protection = more weight = easier handling _________________ Here Lies the United States Of America.
July 04, 1776 - June 23 2005
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arretium Heavy Crude


Joined: Apr 04, 2005 Posts: 473 Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:42 pm Post subject: Re: What type of car to get? |
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You could buy new -- Get a Toyota Sienna AWD.
You'll need another 27.5K though. ;(. |
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k_semler Light Sweet Crude

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Joined: May 17, 2004 Posts: 1969 Location: Democratic People's Republic of Washington
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:47 pm Post subject: Re: What type of car to get? |
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And there comes the difficulty. How much power does a Chevy Sprint have? How much do they weigh? And how many MPG does it get? _________________ Here Lies the United States Of America.
July 04, 1776 - June 23 2005
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Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 4189 Location: 1st territorial capitol of AZ
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:54 pm Post subject: Re: What type of car to get? |
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| Those subarus are kick in the ass fun to drive too, I can testify. |
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strider3700 Fission


Joined: Apr 17, 2005 Posts: 2750 Location: Vancouver Island
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:51 am Post subject: Re: What type of car to get? |
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I drive a 1995 suzuki sidekick 4dr with the 1.6 engine. I get 29 MPG average, 31 mostly highway
1. The vehicle must be heavy enough to plow through 2 foot drifts easily.
No problem with snow so far
2. Preferably 4wd.
Yep. I have manual hubs but auto's are available
3. Must be able to go 65 up the Lewiston hill, (7% grade for 10 miles).
It'll hate you but yeah you can put her in 4th and do it, why not slow down though?
4. Preferably automatic w/ OD transmission
I drive a 5spd and really need it with the 1.6 to get any performance out of her. Besides the mileage is better with a stick. I wish it had a higher final gear though, 65 would be about 3400 rpm in 5th, it might be better with the auto.
5. Must be under $2500
Yeah I think you can find one like mine for that much, I paid $4500 cdn 6 months ago, so $3000 US should be easy, _________________ shame on us, doomed from the start
god have mercy on our dirty little hearts |
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:32 am Post subject: Re: What type of car to get? |
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Suzuki Sidekick/ Geo Tracker would be your best bet, although they are damn ugly and oh so very slow. You may have trouble maintaining 65 mph up a steep grade with one, but they meet all other criteria. _________________ The unnecessary felling of a tree, perhaps the old growth of centuries, seems to me a crime little short of murder. ~Thomas Jefferson |
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bentstrider Heavy Crude


Joined: Oct 25, 2004 Posts: 378 Location: Southern California Desert
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:24 am Post subject: Re: What type of car to get? |
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| The_Toecutter wrote: | | Suzuki Sidekick/ Geo Tracker would be your best bet, although they are damn ugly and oh so very slow. You may have trouble maintaining 65 mph up a steep grade with one, but they meet all other criteria. |
My Bronco II suits me just fine.
It'll tear ass up the hills, but the only reason I do that is so my own ass doesn't get torn!! |
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skyemoor Moderator


Joined: Oct 16, 2004 Posts: 1482 Location: Appalachian Foothills of Virginia
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 4:01 am Post subject: Re: What type of car to get? |
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| k_semler wrote: | Given the ever increasing price of fuel, (now up to $2.839/gal 89 octane), it is now to the point that I must downsize my vehicle. I would like a vehicle that gets 30+ MPG, but I have a few requirements.
1. The vehicle must be heavy enough to plow through 2 foot drifts easily.
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My Honda Insight will go through 2 foot drifts if I get a running start.
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2. Preferably 4wd.
3. Must be able to go 65 up the Lewiston hill, (7% grade for 10 miles).
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You don't need 4wd if you change how you drive in the snow/inclement weather.
Your Mustang and Olds are rear-wheel drive; I had two of them, they are AWFUL in the snow. Front wheel drive is a world of difference.
Going 65 up a hill is a whim, not a need. Whims are one reason we are in the PO fix we are.
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4. Preferably automatic w/ OD transmission
5. Must be under $2500
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Why an automatic? Your price range is a little optimistic.
Get a diesel Rabbit, Golf, Bug, etc. _________________ http://www.carfree.com
http://ecoplan.org/carshare/cs_index.htm
http://www.velomobile.de/GB/Advantages/advantages.html
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papalegba Tar Sands


Joined: Jun 22, 2005 Posts: 82
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Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 4:29 am Post subject: Re: What type of car to get? |
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Mid-80s Toyota Tercel 4WD wagon. High-30mgps on the highway, reliable and over 250K on an engine. Holds a ton of stuff in, and on a rack.
Has a be-low gear, but two-foot drifts is probably asking a bit much... |
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