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Cyrus
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:44 pm    Post subject: Global warming "past the point of no return". Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/article312997.ece Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Global warming "past the point of no return". Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Sad This stuff frightens me so much.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Global warming "past the point of no return". Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Nah, we're fine. What do those climatologists know anyway. Global warming is a myth. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 8:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Global warming "past the point of no return". Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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Nah, we're fine. What do those climatologists know anyway. Global warming is a myth.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Global warming "past the point of no return". Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Ludi wrote:
Nah, we're fine. What do those climatologists know anyway. Global warming is a myth. Rolling Eyes

I've come around - i'm now praying (!) that is so. Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Global warming "past the point of no return". Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Good. I hate shovelling snow from my driveway.
Downside though, I do like to go play in the snowy fields with the 4WD.... Well, lets hope for lots of rain anyways.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Global warming "past the point of no return". Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

A very disturbing story---one of the scariest I've read. I feel sorry for the polar bears and all the other ice-dependent Arctic species that will soon be extinct. I'm not sure I feel as sorry for the human race, which in due course will follow them into oblivion.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Global warming "past the point of no return". Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Past the point
of no return -
no backward glances:
the games we've played
till now are at
an end . . .
Past all thought
of "if" or "when" -
no use resisting:
abandon thought,
and let the dream
descend . . .
What raging fire
shall flood the soul?
What rich desire
unlocks its door?
What sweet seduction
lies before
us . . .?
Past the point
of no return,
the final threshold -
what warm,
unspoken secrets
will we learn?
Beyond the point
of no return . . .


Oh wait, we're talking about global warming...

I personally don't think we have enough fossil fuels to cause runaway global warming, that is, unless we decide to burn everything we have left. (Which is certainly possible).

But a very interesting link none the less.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Global warming "past the point of no return". Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Tyler, we're humans. Remember? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Global warming "past the point of no return". Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Cyrus wrote:
Tyler, we're humans. Remember? Very Happy


No matter how hard we try, we never manage to overcome that insane desire to have everyhting right now. Argh.

And we usually don't try very hard to conserve anything.

Double argh.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Global warming "past the point of no return". Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Cyrus wrote:
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/article312997.ece Sad


I think the world went past the point of no return long ago. Positive feedback started once the arctic tundra stopped acting as a carbon sink and became a carbon source - it has warmed enough that it is releasing stored methane and carbon dioxide. Climate Roulette: Loss of Carbon Sinks & Positive Feedbacks
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Global warming "past the point of no return". Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I think the whole issue of global warming is grossly overstated. Making a mountain out of a molehill as it were.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Global warming "past the point of no return". Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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I think the whole issue of global warming is grossly overstated. Making a mountain out of a molehill as it were.



How so?

Not to offend but, do you not care about the condition of the environment, as long as it's livable, in your area, for a short period?

It is becoming very obvious it is being destroyed. Whether you care or not is another story.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Global warming "past the point of no return". Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Specop_007 wrote:
I think the whole issue of global warming is grossly overstated. Making a mountain out of a molehill as it were.


Well some people such as the residents of The Maldives would be very happy if they could do exactly as you say - make their molehills into mountains - that would help them keep their feet dry.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:04 am    Post subject: Re: Global warming "past the point of no return". Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

The gross signs of a runaway greenhouse are now visible from orbit, but the point of no return was passed a long time ago. In all likelihood, the 1970s were the last opportunity to stabilize climate. By the 1980s the warming trend was already well established. But the world had other priorities.
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