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Soft_Landing
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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2004 12:46 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

It seems to me the potential downsides to peak oil maybe overwhelm the question. I like to think of myself as an optimist, but if the worst consequence to come from the passing of peak oil turns out to be that I don't get retirement/superannuation monies, then I think I'll have me a little party when I turn 60. (27 now...)
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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2004 1:10 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I am 55 and plan to work until 60 and then go part-time at another job. I am not planning for a catastrophe. Sure, I could hold out here in my house fow a few weeks or months, but I don't see the point.

I am expecting a recession will start by 2006 and my company will close either that year or the next. I get a pension from GE, but I expect they will be gone by 2012 along with my pension. The company says the pension is guaranteed by the Feds. I don't think it will work out that way.

I am expecting SSecurity benefits to be cut in half by 2010.

With my house paid for and my only expenses being taxes, food and utilities, I can do allright as long as it doesn't get any worse than Depression level. I can't plan for anything worse than that.

I lived for 15 years in back-to-the-land communes in Missouri and Virginia. I could go back there I suppose, but I think I would prefer death. They live off the power grid the same as I do. I'm not convinced they would be any better off than I would be if it failed.

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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2004 11:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Retirement??>>---> "Peak Oil Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Leaf wrote:
How do most of you under the age of 60 think about this topic. Some of you have worked your entire life to hope one day see this check. Do think you will see this if Peak hits? What are your thoughts? Question


I am thankful that I have a steady state job, where my retirement fund is virtually unparralelled. I contrubute 5% of my monthy earnings, and WSU contrubutes 1%. I am in PERS3, so I have a choice on where I invest my money, but I chose to let the state invest it for me in thier programs. I have been getting decent returns on my money so far, and I am lucky enough to be able to take out up to 100% after 5 years if I so desire. What I plan to do is to wait until absolutly the last possible miniute until I can withdraw my money, and do so. Doing this will allow me to have quite a bit of funds available for my survival for when the massive downslope comes. This available funds will let me purchase the nessecary last miniute items crutial to my survival in a Post-Petrolium world. So, I am not too worried about my retirement, as I can just take it if I think that it is in danger of rapid devaluation.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 1:52 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Good sempler I just advised my dad to take his pension out and he did. Folks even without peak oil you aren't going to see a penny of your retirements.

Way to many baby boomers and way way too little money in the system when they go to retire. Already multiple companies have cancelled all their pensions even for people who payed in there entire life. They had to or face bankruptcy such as american airlines, heavy hit by high oil costs and 9'11.

GM, Ford and daimler are already saying pretty much they won't be able to pay any pensions, they are transfering what assets they can to other companies they own so that they can let their american companies go bankrupt.

The best you can hope for is a drastically reduced amount, maybe 5-10% at best from what you were promised, once you factor in inflation of course. I believe the government is starting to madly print money to stay in the game already, and the boomers haven't even started retiring.
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