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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Viva Hugo Chavez Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 4:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Viva Hugo Chavez Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Oh yeah, Damn those socialists, giving away perfectly good money and turning companies over to the workers so they can actually make a living when the rich owners shut them down cause they don't want to pay back taxes.
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Poverty and Unemployment Down significantly in Venezuela in 2005
Caracas, Venezuela, October 14, 2005—Venezuela’s National Institute of Statistics (INE) says that poverty will drop by 8% points by the end of 2005, relative to the previous year. Similarly, unemployment dropped 0.6% points, from 12.1% in August, to 11.5% in September of this year.
INE director Elias Eljuri made the announcement yesterday, saying that Venezuela’s poverty rate is expected to drop to 35% by the end of the year, down from 47% for 2004. during the first half of 2005 poverty was calculated to be at 38.5%. Also, critical poverty, the level at which people cannot afford to cover their basic needs, dropped to 10.1% in the first half of 2005, down from 18% the previous year.

According to Eljuri, this means that poverty has now dropped to a level below what it was before Chavez came into office, in 1999, when the INE registered the poverty rate to be at 42%.
Unemployment also dropped significantly, reported the INE, from 14.5% in September 2004, to 11.5% in September 2005.
http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/news.php?newsno=1785
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:01 am    Post subject: Re: Viva Hugo Chavez Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

If any of the Bush SS go after Hugo, they'll have to go through me first. Ok, that would take about half a second, but at least it would buy him some time.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:58 am    Post subject: Re: Viva Hugo Chavez Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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US "private military contractors" already in-country to "deal with" Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez Frias...
Intelligence agencies are revealing that US private military contractors, active in Colombia "under various contract umbrellas, including counter-narcotics and counter-insurgency" are building up to yet another attempted coup d'etat against Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez.
Carefully described as "private military contractors" (a.k.a. hired mercenary killers), the PMCs are known already to have conducted several incursions across the Colombia-Venezuela border to link up with rebel units of the Venezuelan military operating along the border badlands between the two countries.
Senior officials at the US Pentagon have authorized the intruder operation as part of a plan to make it appear that Chavez is militarily assisting the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC).
* The US mercenaries have also established close links with right-wing Colombian paramilitaries (AUC) and their associated drug cartels to smuggle weapons into Venezuela.
More: http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=46388

But hey, privatization of all things is an entrenched phenonemon of what is loosely called globalization. People generally don't object to "globalization", which is widely understood to make nation-states obsolete, so why complain about the inevitable privatization of military power? If nation-states are impotent that doesn't mean lethal force embodied in their militaries goes away too. Corporations operate without borders now--so they're naturally going to want to have armies under their control wherever they go.
It's progress!

Good link for More Information about this issue...
This gives a pretty good rundown of what is going on at the border between Venezuela and Colombia, and the US stance. I haven't read the whole thing yet but it seems relatively factual so far and indicates clearly when something is just rumor... :
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Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said on 16 September that the world could not tolerate the US way of life, adding that “Mr. Bush represents the most crude and savage imperialism that threatens the world.” His fiery, anti-US speech at the UN General Assembly earned the most applause of any speech given that day. Meanwhile, the US has placed Venezuela on its blacklist of countries not cooperating with the US-driven “war on drugs”.

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The UN reported that Venezuela had seized some 32 tonnes of cocaine in 2003, 7 per cent of the total amount of cocaine seized in the world that year. The country ranked fourth after Colombia, the US, and Spain in cocaine hauls. In 2004, the US government congratulated Venezuela for seizing 43 tonnes of drugs. This year to date, Venezuelan authorities have seized some 59 tonnes of drugs and 72 tonnes of precursor chemicals, according to the Venezuelan Office of the Vice President.
This year has been a record year for cocaine seizures in Venezuela. With such an amount of cocaine trading hands, there is opportunity for corruption. Frustration between the US Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) and its Venezuelan counterpart, the National Guard, has contributed to some finger-pointing, rumors, and other counterproductive activities.

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Decertification means very little for Venezuela, however. With over US$30 billion in foreign reserves, the amount of funding Caracas received from the US was not even a drop in the bucket. This decertification was little more than a public dressing-down of Chavez on the global stage, intended to embarrass him on the eve of his speech at the UN General Assembly. It could not have been better timed, or more irrelevant to the actual work that is being done to fight drug trafficking in Venezuela.

http://www.isn.ethz.ch/news/sw/details.cfm?ID=13022
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 2:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Viva Hugo Chavez Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Any bets on when he will die from a "mystery illness" or "tragic accident"?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 8:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Viva Hugo Chavez Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I dont' know man, they'bve been trying to do away with CAstro for thiry odd years and haven't succeeeded and the two are well acquainted. Hopefully Castro shared some of his survival secrets... bet they have odds laid in Las Vegas.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:20 pm    Post subject: Chavez calls for ban on Halloween Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Chavez calls for ban on Halloween

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Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has urged families not to mark Halloween, calling it a US custom alien to the South American nation.


Which may be technically true, but I thought that "Day of the Dead" was a South American custom.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Chavez calls for ban on Halloween Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I just lost a bit of respect for him.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Chavez calls for ban on Halloween Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Oh yeah! Well Fark him! I call for a ban on his oil! HA! Take THAT Chavez!! Razz



Errr.........Maybe that wouldnt be such a good idea...... Embarassed
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Chavez calls for ban on Halloween Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Maybe Chavez is trying to reduce Venezuela's dental bill.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Chavez calls for ban on Halloween Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Halloween has become just another Hallmark gift-buying season event, the first of the gift-buying year They were mostly invented by the greeting card company to sell you crap. I like to identify them by their colors. They are;

the orange season-halloween
the brown season-thanksgiving

let's see if you guys can guess the rest (oh goody!)

the red season (hint Dec. 25)
the pink season (that's the season for bj's. no not the maypole Mad )
the green season (the time when we pray to the god of porcelain)
the purple season (hint-jc)

In my opinion there is only one free, non-consumer holiday left and that is the 4th.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Chavez calls for ban on Halloween Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Isn't it more genetics then diet, that affect tooth decay?

That said...I still think Chavez is a dirty bastard for trying to rid his S America of Halloween..
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Chavez calls for ban on Halloween Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

pstarr, does it bother you people celebrate the holidays?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:35 am    Post subject: Re: Chavez calls for ban on Halloween Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

lotrfan55345 wrote:
I just lost a bit of respect for him.


I'd first find out if the has called ban on Dia de los Muertos as well, or just the American Halloween. I find it very unlikely that the Latin America would ever stop celebrating that one (2nd of Nov I seem to recall), while US Halloween might actually not have deep enough roots yet.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 4:42 am    Post subject: Re: Chavez calls for ban on Halloween Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I'm with Chavez on this one. I say ban Halloween from the US too. If I was in charge the list of holidays would shrink by at least two.
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