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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:43 am    Post subject: Keep a chicken (or a horse), go to jail.... Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

USDA plan for mandatory RFID and GPS tracking of all livestock and Federal database on same.

This is not tinfoil-hat stuff.

This affects you if you plan to keep animals for self-sufficiency, use horses or oxen instead of tractors, or buy food from organic or other small-scale farms.

This affects you if you even have one chicken or one horse.

Read and get involved, NOW. We have until middle of next year to derail this abominable bullshit, "or else."


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Poultry fanciers and keepers of small flocks are facing a grave threat from a proposed government intrusion into their innocent choice of pastimes and way of life.

For several years, the USDA has been working with the largest-scale animal industry organizations (for example, the National Pork Producers, Monsanto Company, and Cargill Meat) to develop a mandatory "National Animal Identification System" ("NAIS").

However, most small scale livestock producers, people who raise animals for their own food, and people who keep horses or livestock as companion animals do not know about the USDA's plans.

The NAIS will drive small producers out of the market, will make people abandon raising animals for their own food, will invade Americans' personal privacy to a degree never before tolerated, will violate the religious freedom of Americans whose beliefs make it impossible for them to comply, and will erase the last vestiges of animal welfare from the production of animal foods.

The Problem

On April 25, 2005, the USDA released "Draft Program Standards" ("St.") and a "Draft Strategic Plan" ("Plan") concerning the NAIS. If you think the description below sounds too bizarre to be true, please go here http://animalid.aphis.usda.gov/nais/index.shtml , read the Standards and Plan, and check the citations.
By January 1, 2008, the NAIS will be mandatory. (Plan, pp. 2, 10, 17.)

Every person who owns even one horse, cow, pig, chicken, sheep, pigeon, or virtually any livestock animal, will be forced to register their home, including owner's name, address, and telephone number, and keyed to Global Positioning System coordinates for satellite monitoring, in a giant federal database under a 7-digit "premises ID number." (St., pp. 3-4, 10-12; Plan, p. 5.)

Every animal will have to be assigned a 15-digit ID number, also to be kept in a giant federal database. The form of ID will most likely be a tag or microchip containing a Radio Frequency Identification Device, designed to be read from a distance. (Plan, p. 10; St., pp. 6, 12, 20, 27-28.)

The plan may also include collecting the DNA of every animal and/or a retinal scan of every animal. (Plan, p.13.)

The owner will be required to report: the birthdate of an animal, the application of every animal's ID tag, every time an animal leaves or enters the property, every time an animal loses a tag, every time a tag is replaced, the slaughter or death of an animal, or if any animal is missing. Such events must be reported within 24 hours. (St., pp. 12-13, 17-21.)

Third parties, such as veterinarians, will be required to report "sightings" of animals. (St., p. 25.) In other words, if you call a vet to your property to treat your horse, cow, or any other animal, and the vet finds any animal without the mandatory 15-digit computer-readable ID, the vet may be required to report you.

If you do not comply, the USDA will exercise "enforcement" against you. (St., p. 7; Plan, p. 17.) The USDA has not yet specified the nature of "enforcement," but presumably it will include imposing fines and/or seizing your animals.
There are no exceptions -- under the USDA plan, you will be forced to register and report even if you raise animals only for your own food or keep horses for draft or for transportation.

The Negative Effects

Eradication of Small Farms - People with just a few meat animals or 40-cow dairies are already living on the edge financially. The USDA plan will force many of them to give up farming.

Loss of the True Security of Organic and Local Foods - The NAIS is touted by the USDA and agricorporations as a way to make our food supply "secure" against diseases or terrorism. However, most people instinctively understand that real food security comes from raising food yourself or buying from a local farmer you actually know. The USDA plan will only kill off more local sources of production and further promote the giant industrial methods which cause many food safety and disease problems.

Extreme Damage to Personal Privacy - Legally, livestock animals are a form of personal property. It is unprecedented for the United States government to conduct large-scale computer-aided surveillance of its citizens simply because they own a common type of property. (The only exceptions are registration of motor vehicles and guns, due to their clear inherent dangers - but they are registered at the state level, not by the federal government.) The NAIS would actually subject the owner of a chicken to far more surveillance than the owner of a gun. Surveillance of small-scale livestock owners is like the government subjecting people to surveillance for owning a couch, a TV, a lawnmower.

What about non-livestock animals?

Will the government next want to register all cats, dogs, and parakeets, and demand the global positioning coordinates of their owners' houses and apartments?

Insult to Animal Welfare - The NAIS is the ultimate objectification of higher, sensitive living creatures, treating individual animals as if they were cans of peas with a bar code. Many people who raise their own animals or buy from small, local producers do so because they are very troubled by industrial-scale production of chickens, cattle, and pigs. These people will be forced either to sacrifice their personal privacy to government surveillance, or to stop raising their own food by humane standards.

Burden on Religious Freedom - Many adherents of plain (and other) faiths raise their own food animals and use animals in farming and transportation because their beliefs require them to live this way. Such people obviously cannot comply with the USDA's computerized, technology-dependent system. The NAIS will force these people to violate their religious beliefs.

What You Can Do

Small-scale keepers of poultry and other livestock can take action to create an effective movement in opposition to the USDA/agricorporate plan. First, small-scale livestock owners should not participate in any so-called "voluntary" state or federal program to register farms or animals. The USDA is using farmers' supposed willingness to enter a "voluntary" program as a justification for making the program mandatory. (See Plan, "Executive Summary" and pp. 7-8.)

Small farmers and livestock owners can also help inform and organize others. The USDA presently does not plan to finalize its rules for mandatory ID until the summer of 2006. There is still time to oppose this plan.

Several farmers and other concerned citizens have joined together to form FARM for LIFETM, a public-interest organization to support the rights of small and subsistence farmers and consumers of organic, natural, and local foods. FARM for LIFE's first project is to stop the USDA plan for mandatory animal ID.

The organization will publish a newsletter three times a year (first publication scheduled for November 1, 2005), to inform citizens of developments concerning animal ID and other issues vital to the small farming and natural/organic food communities. Newsletter subscribers will also be sent information at appropriate times on how to contact lawmakers and the USDA to oppose animal ID. In addition, FARM for LIFETM will coordinate with other existing interest groups to mount an effective campaign against animal ID.
Please help STOP animal ID and support FARM for LIFETby subscribing to the newsletter: $25 Individual Subscription (1 year), $40 Institutional Subscription (1 year), Please help with an additional donation in any amount. Make your check payable to "Farm for Life" and mail to: Farm for Life, PO Box 501, Canton, New York 13617.
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Reprint of article by:

Mary Zanoni, Ph.D. (Cornell), J.D. (Yale),
Executive Director of Farm for LifeTM
P.O. Box 501, Canton, New York 13617
Email: mlz@slic.com
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:24 am    Post subject: Re: Keep a chicken (or a horse), go to jail.... Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

OH my GOD! I thought this was a joke!

What a surveillance state run for the benefit of huge multinational corporations...corporatism (aka fascism) is here...(as if we didn't already know)

Public comment period was Oct. 12.

The founding farmers, er fathers, are rolling in their graves...This would be seen as akin to the 'stamp tax'...revolution material to them...an unwarranted infringment on personal liberty and property...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:53 am    Post subject: Re: Keep a chicken (or a horse), go to jail.... Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

looking forward to increased food costs and taxes to implement such an all-pervasive system!









but then again maybe not - I don't live in the US Razz
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:39 am    Post subject: Re: Keep a chicken (or a horse), go to jail.... Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

OilsNotWell wrote:
OH my GOD! I thought this was a joke!


I thought so until I did a google search and came up with similar links.

Federal Government in the US of A truely knows no bounds.

Can't track illegal immigrants or stop suicide bombers but they want to know where your chickens are. I presume there will be additions to the Patriot act so the FBI can find out what books your pigs have been reading.

This is where 1984 meets Animal Farm. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 3:16 am    Post subject: Re: Keep a chicken (or a horse), go to jail.... Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Wee... I get to play The Devil's Advocate! Feel free to chime in, I don't think Mary Zanoni will be responding. But then again, I've been wrong before! Very Happy

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Eradication of Small Farms - People with just a few meat animals or 40-cow dairies are already living on the edge financially. The USDA plan will force many of them to give up farming.


How? The implication here is that farmers would be forced to absorb the cost of this system. Is this mentioned in either pdf?

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Loss of the True Security of Organic and Local Foods - The NAIS is touted by the USDA and agricorporations as a way to make our food supply "secure" against diseases or terrorism. However, most people instinctively understand that real food security comes from raising food yourself or buying from a local farmer you actually know.


What is this "real food security" mentioned? How does buying food from someone you know result in increased food security versus buying from someone you don't know?

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The USDA plan will only kill off more local sources of production and further promote the giant industrial methods which cause many food safety and disease problems.


How, and, such as?

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Extreme Damage to Personal Privacy - Legally, livestock animals are a form of personal property.


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Insult to Animal Welfare - The NAIS is the ultimate objectification of higher, sensitive living creatures, treating individual animals as if they were cans of peas with a bar code. Many people who raise their own animals or buy from small, local producers do so because they are very troubled by industrial-scale production of chickens, cattle, and pigs. These people will be forced either to sacrifice their personal privacy to government surveillance, or to stop raising their own food by humane standards.


Wait, so animals are personal property, raised humanely? Just like slaves were? Granted, I'm heading down the slippery slope, but to say an animal is personal property, to be slaughtered with kindness, mercy, or compassion....
Yeah... I would feel great about being slaughtered humanely Rolling Eyes. Maybe killing something isn't humane, barring certain *exceptions of course.

*If the being in question is unable to cope with it's current condition and requests, you know what...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:25 am    Post subject: Re: Keep a chicken (or a horse), go to jail.... Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

This is NOT a joke.

How will it affect small farms? Paperwork and more paperwork, the arch-enemy of people who do real work for a living.

How will it affect privacy? Do you want your farm tracked via GPS? Do you want your animals' tags read from a distance? Do you want the Feds knowing how many chickens, goats, cows, oxen, horses, you have? Do you want your name & address in a database that will be easily searchable for "profiles" that look for intentional communities and other potential "hotbeds of dissident activity"...?

And if you use horses for transport, do you want the equivalent of a tracking chip in your car, but on your horse instead?

And if it ever comes to armed rebellion, do you want your horses tracked for targeting purposes...? This is not idle speculation either, though it deserves a topic all its own.

Do you want to see your veterinarian turned into an agent of the Feds?

Look: think of this applied to cars, or power tools, or firearms. What kind of a stink would you raise in that case? Well you'd better start raising it now, because this slope is very slippery indeed.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:25 am    Post subject: Re: Keep a chicken (or a horse), go to jail.... Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I live in WI and there is a large amish community not far from here. It was from some Amish friends that I first learned of this a few months ago.

They are terribly upset...to them, this is the very begininngs of the end. You see, they feel that this will eventually lead to the marking of their children. The mark of the beast in other words.

They are also fearing the end of their way of life. How, is a person, who does not use modern appliances, stay in complicance?

It is very sad, and terribly scary.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:42 am    Post subject: Re: Keep a chicken (or a horse), go to jail.... Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

And how long will it be before this system is used to track

1. Sex offenders
2. Drug offenders
3. Anyone with any sort of record
4. Kids n High End schools
5. Kids in low end schools
6. People who work 'sensitive jobs' like truckers and burger flippers
7. All the rest of us


The corporate objective of this project is to eliminate all as many small livestock operators as possible. The governments objective is to have a system in place where tracking almost everyone is possible.

And as for using this system to track criminals. If they are so dangerous as to need to be tracked 24/7 maybe they should still be locked up.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:52 am    Post subject: Re: Keep a chicken (or a horse), go to jail.... Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

HEY FEDS!

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:59 am    Post subject: Re: Keep a chicken (or a horse), go to jail.... Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

What a joke... never happen.

Many of my fellow Americans seem to be living in the past, where the US government waves it's hand and the world falls in line.

They see technology as the latest/greatest tool to manipulate the masses.

But that's a very old school, 5 minutes ago, way of thinking.

The tech Genie is out of the bottle, & won't be put back.

With copyright becoming meaningless, & black market versions of everything you can imagine growing daily, there seems little chance for success in schemes like this.

Way too venerable.

It's easy to see how people could acquire fake tags of course, but the very nature of the technology is insecure.

Works great until someone releases a few million counterfeit tags on migratory wild birds for example.

Reminds me of Congress discussing taxing email...

If I ever give up and become dated in my thinking in old age, I hope I have the dignity to recognize it and step aside for younger folk.

It's embarrassing.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:05 am    Post subject: Re: Keep a chicken (or a horse), go to jail.... Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Stories like this have led me to reorient my politics from "liberal" to "anti-federalist". Here's hoping that the costs of enforcing this program prove prohibitively high in a post-peak world.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:17 am    Post subject: Re: Keep a chicken (or a horse), go to jail.... Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Aaron, yes it will happen. It won't be widely enforced however, until they need a reason (any reason) to throw your chicken raising ass in prision and/or seize your property. You'd be amazed at the number of things which are stacked up against property owners, small buisnesses, etc which most people aren't even aware of but can be used as a convienent excuses by the beuracrats to fine, imprison and seize property. Let me sum it up as TOO GODDAMN MANY LAWS...

BULLSHIT like this is why I am a Libertarian.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:56 am    Post subject: Re: Keep a chicken (or a horse), go to jail.... Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Oh they may catch a few & make examples of them like the entertainment industry to music & movie downloaders for example.

But as an effective program to control the population it's doomed.

It's like all the other failed control systems like drug smuggling interdiction, boarder control, etc...

These exist only as a pork-feeding tube for government types to enhance their career prospects...

Very little if any effectiveness.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:07 am    Post subject: Re: Keep a chicken (or a horse), go to jail.... Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

This thing stinks like a big pile of fascist bullshit... Mad
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:10 am    Post subject: Re: Keep a chicken (or a horse), go to jail.... Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Aaron wrote:
Oh they may catch a few & make examples of them like the entertainment industry to music & movie downloaders for example.

But as an effective program to control the population it's doomed.

It's like all the other failed control systems like drug smuggling interdiction, boarder control, etc...

These exist only as a pork-feeding tube for government types to enhance their career prospects...

Very little if any effectiveness.


Well said, but keep in mind they ALSO serve as a convienent stick to beat the masses with occasionally. You know its the illiusion of control, safety, etc... I know its the illusion of control, safety, etc... But the faceless bueracrats will still let these laws destroy lives and freedoms on a daily basis. Look at the damage the "war on drugs" has done! Emminent domain... I could go on...

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