Like the illusion of Wall Street, with its vast and powerful investment banks, now shuttered, China too is an illusion perpetuated by the Globalists that gave us the 15,000 mile Caesar salad, poisoned cat food and lead based paint on babies' pacifiers. Like the illusion that money would come from thin air to always push housing prices higher, China has spent a generation pursuing its illusion. Pursuing an unattainable dream to be like the West, while 6000 years of its carefully shepherded top soil blows into the sea.
Does the Bush Administration Sincerely Think It Is Acting In The Best Interest Of The Majority Of Americans?
Absolutely. These people are selfless servants of the American People.
2%
[ 1 ]
Yes. They may not be perfect, but they are lead by the desire to benefit the average American.
0%
[ 0 ]
Yes, but like any politicians, they're somewhat beholden to special interests.
13%
[ 5 ]
No, they serve their base, e.g., the religious right, and aren't very concerned with the needs of the majority.
7%
[ 3 ]
No, they serve their corporate masters, how the American people fare is an afterthought.
44%
[ 17 ]
No, they make the robber barons looks like a bunch of Mother Teresas. They are doing everything they can to fleece the American people.
31%
[ 12 ]
Total Votes : 38
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TT Heavy Crude
Joined: Sep 12, 2005 Posts: 289 Location: Victoria, Australia
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 8:34 am Post subject: Re: The Bush Administration and Its Intentions
I didn't answer this poll because I can't agree with any of the options.
IMO they are just a pack of incompetents with no idea of how average people live. Maybe they tell themselves and each other they have good intentions, but they're so clueless they really don't understand that they're totally screwing up most of the world.
When is someone going to do the world a favour and nuke the white house.
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:16 am Post subject: Re: President's Science Policy In America
I am going to be closer to K_Selmers side.
There are enviro wackos out there, but we need energy soveriegnty.
We need to defund and defang the militant Islamic culture. My moderate Islamic friends are behind my ideas 150%. Anyone who came from those crazy cultures and got US citizen is typicly the most flag waving ultra conservative person you can find.
There is no silver bullet, but there are tools that were written off in the past that become feasable as the price of oil goes up and as we have to pretty much schedule a war every decade to get to it.
I like:
Geothermal heating and cooling for houses and businesses. That reduces coal, natural gas, and oil consuption. We now how to do it now.
NEV (Neighborhood electric vehicles) the 21st century mule because it can also do work in you yard and garden than can handle trips within 10 miles safely and up to 20 miles as your confidence increases.
Segway is okay, but I am a big person and me getting a bag of groceries with this thing doesn't work period.
Pebble reactor based trains. This would reduce long distance trucking to an historical footnote. Truckers aren't making money anyway, it is a dieing industry.
I want to see:
More telecommuting to work. Why spend any oil to go sit at a desk with a computer when you have a desk and computer at your house?
Hybrid postal vehciles and school busses. They start and stopp too much, they need to be plug in hybrids.
True hybrid work trucks. If they could get even 2 to 5 miles on batteries alone then construction sites would smell a lot better. People would breathe better.
Hybrid 18 Wheelers. Same here .. even 2 to 5 miles would make truck docs a lot healthier and the port cities would lose the diesel polution.
Flex fuel standard on all gas vehicles. Come on it cost $100!
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:18 am Post subject: Re: The Bush Administration and Its Intentions
TT wrote:
IMO they are just a pack of incompetents...
With the exception of W, who is at best trainable (i.e., like a seal, monkey, etc), I strongly disagree. They've been supremely, unprecedentedly successful at taking money out of the pockets of average Americans and putting it into the pockets of the tiny wealth-worshipping minority George calls his "base" (see Fahrenheit 9/11). The average American may be clueless, but a scam of this breadth and depth takes intelligence, organization, and determination. Karl Rove laughs all the way to the bank every time someone says they're incompentent.
TT wrote:
...with no idea of how average people live.
Couldn't agree more. We are "useless eaters" at best to these people. _________________ There's a magic forcefield around America that prevents conspiracies at the highest levels of power. What a great country!
Joined: Sep 25, 2004 Posts: 4714 Location: Boston, MA
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:52 pm Post subject: Re: The Bush Administration and Its Intentions
The Administration is doing what it thinks is best for America.
Granted they may be wrong in their decisions as to what is the best course of action, but they are patriotic people. It is not in their interest (or anyone's interest) to be looked at by history as the men who sold out the American people.
It is certainly possible that Bush's team believes that deficits really don't matter and that we really will win in Iraq eventually.
If the country they lead falls apart, the masters lose out...big time.
Hitler wanted Germany to do well, no? His policies turned out to be disasterous for most of the world...but he would never have considered himself unpatriotic. He legitimately believed that invading Russia was a good idea.
Bush has nothing to gain by turning Iraq into a quagmire. I sincerely believe that Bush went in to Iraq in order to improve the situation in America's best interest. It turns out he was wrong on several things, but that doesn't change his intentions.
Then again, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. _________________ "www.peakoil.com is the Myspace of the Apocalypse."
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:16 pm Post subject: Re: The Bush Administration and Its Intentions
Like many of the others I am of the opinion that the American adminstration thinks it's doing the right thing. However, I don't think they are completely incompetent. They are desperately trying to hold together an economy failing as a result of the diminishing resources of the American landbase. They have rather competently arranged for policies that syphon off the wealth of other countries (competent but not very nice!). They've used up all the good/effective ideas and are now forced to resort to the high risk/stupid ideas/policies to try to prop up a failing system as well as trying to minimize the damage to the population in general and their base in particular. Their failure is largely a result of the fact that it can't be done! Decline is inevitable and citizens will be hurt. Any attempt to truly mitigate this, like pushing population control and pushing lower consumption (both energy and other stuff), would be political suicide. Even your Jimmy Carter demonstrated that education of Americans is not possible, and certainly not a good campaign platform.
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:13 pm Post subject: Re: The Bush Administration and Its Intentions
Tyler_JC wrote:
The Administration is doing what it thinks is best for America.
Granted they may be wrong in their decisions as to what is the best course of action, but they are patriotic people. It is not in their interest (or anyone's interest) to be looked at by history as the men who sold out the American people.
That's a good point. But who will be writing the history books? _________________ In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations, and epochs it is the rule. – Nietzsche
Time makes more converts than reason. – Thomas Paine
History is a set of lies agreed upon. – Napoleon Bonaparte
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 5:56 pm Post subject: Re: The Bush Administration and Its Intentions
Tyler_JC wrote:
... It is not in their interest (or anyone's interest) to be looked at by history as the men who sold out the American people.
They'll be dead when "history" has its say, in the meantime, i.e., while they're alive, they get to revel in unlimited power and everything it brings.
Tyler_JC wrote:
If the country they lead falls apart, the masters lose out...big time.
Why? When a CEO's company goes down the tubes, do they "lose out...big time?" No, they land quite comfortably thanks to their golden parachutes and business connections.
Tyler_JC wrote:
Bush has nothing to gain by turning Iraq into a quagmire.
Bush has nothing to lose by turning Iraq into a quagmire. Let the "terrorists" all kill themselves, as long as American forces are on the ground when oil becomes scarce and hot war for it breaks out.
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:23 am Post subject: Condi's True Confessions
source wrote:
by William S. Lind
On Oct. 19, 2005, the American secretary of state, AKA the Tea Lady, did something extraordinary for the Bush administration. She told the truth. According to the Oct. 20 Washington Times, in testimony to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Ms. Rice said "that it was always the Bush administration's intent to redesign the Middle East after the September 11 attacks, which exposed a 'deep malignancy growing' in the region, and that the Iraq War was part of that plan."
Well. There we have it. It's now official: Saddam's eternally elusive weapons of mass destruction were just eyewash. The decision to invade Iraq came first, and the various contrived justifications came after. Those Iraqi WMD were as real as Polish attacks on Germany in 1939, and as cynical. The cynicism is, if anything, ever more brazen: Herr Ribbentrop never testified to the Reichstag that "Polish aggression" was just a setup, even if everyone knew.
Does it matter? To the American press and people, apparently not. Miss Rice's official confirmation of everyone's suspicions got virtually no coverage. After all, the NFL season has started...
Joined: Feb 20, 2005 Posts: 2886 Location: Uppsala, Sweden
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:31 am Post subject: Re: Condi's True Confessions
I have great respect fo Mr. Lind. He is the director of:
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The Free Congress Foundation, is a 28-year-old Washington, DC-based conservative educational foundation (think tank) that teaches people how to be effective in the political process, advocates judicial reform, promotes cultural conservatism, and works against the government encroachment of individual liberties.
_________________ Peak oil is not an energy crisis. It is a liquid fuel crisis.
Joined: Sep 06, 2004 Posts: 5315 Location: Smalltown New Zealand
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:54 pm Post subject: Re: Condi's True Confessions
I missed this. Did everyone else in the whole world? Does nobody care anymore? _________________ "Complex problems have simple, easy to understand, wrong answers." - Henry Louis Mencken
By Nicholas Kralev
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
October 20, 2005
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said yesterday that it was always the Bush administration's intent to redesign the Middle East after the September 11 attacks, which exposed a "deep malignancy growing" in the region, and that the Iraq war was part of that plan.
Miss Rice, in her first testimony on Capitol Hill in eight months, refused to outline benchmarks for reducing the U.S. troop levels in Iraq.
Instead, she offered a short-term strategy to stabilize the country, including the creation of civil-military teams in key provinces, but that plan was met with skepticism by both Republican and Democratic senators on the Foreign Relations Committee.
"Even if withdrawal timelines are deemed unwise because they might provide a strategic advantage to the insurgency, the American people need to more fully understand the basis upon which our troops are likely to come home," said Sen. Richard G. Lugar, Indiana Republican and committee chairman.
"We have to level with the American people," said Sen. George V. Voinovich, Ohio Republican. "This is another world war."
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