Joined: Oct 09, 2005 Posts: 53 Location: New Zealand
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 9:31 pm Post subject: Re: 1 Aluminum can = 3 hours TV
coyote wrote:
No, after Peak Oil electricity will not remain cheap for many years, let alone centuries.
The whole economics of aluminium production is predicated on (very) cheap electricity.
Here in NZ we have the Cromalco smelter, which runs on clean, green, 100% hydro generated electricity. The deal to get Cromalco here was done many years ago, when NZ was 100% hydro electricity.
Times change, of course, and now total renewables now make up 70% of our electricity, the rest being NG and coal. Comalco are looking fo another good long-term deal giving them cheap electricity, in a country (...world) that is facing increasing energy costs.
NZ is torn - we'd like to see the back of Cromalco, they use 15% of all our electricity, so getting that power back would make a big difference to our thermal generation needs. But losing Cromalco would mean the end of lots of jobs (effectively the dessimation of a region, a bit like what happened to mining villages in Wales), and loss of foreign income and tax.
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:42 pm Post subject: Re: 1 Aluminum can = 3 hours TV
It's quite pathetic how all the drink containers were made out of glass and recycled earlier to now where nothing is reused. Convenience is what has fueled this massive uptake of disposable products, infact convenience is still making inroads into every corner of our lives, until oil runs out, our lives will become more and more convenient until the system topples over itself. I still perfer plastic bottles over glass, I believe glass bottles are dangerous, where ever I look there is a smashed bottle somewhere, animals, humans, cars and bikes all suffer when moving over broken glass, and our Australian bush is absoultly littered with glass and broken bottles which causes bush fires on hot days
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