Bush rejects increasing car fuel efficiency standards

NevadaGhosts · Intermediate Crude Joined: Aug 20, 2004 Posts: 752

Bush dismissed the idea of increasing fuel efficiency standards

eastbay

Well, I had hopes that it would happen today... in fact, every day I have that hope, but I suppose I'll have to wait until another day for him to start working on improving his karma.
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pup55 · Expert Joined: May 26, 2004 Posts: 3811

So to recap:

a. Using foreign oil is bad
b. Cars use a lot of oil
c. We should not insist that cars become more efficient.

I am not following the logic here.

NeoPeasant

eastbay

It's the "What else have we got that burns?" answer to peak oil.

Neopeasant, that really nails it... and we'll keep on igniting things until we ignite each other.
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Leanan · News Editor Joined: May 20, 2004 Posts: 4575

Well, I guess it's pretty obvious now that this is another "manned mission to Mars."

dub_scratch

I'm glad Bush and our government rejects increases CAFE standards. When PO happens, our thermodynamically challenged toxic car culture is going to take a big hit and start going down sooner rather than latter. If we are to have better fuel economy then the endurance of this great energy waster known as the National Traffic Jam will be there to suck up more energy. It also will leave us with more sprawl & car dependency-- more wasted investment.

Everybody who cares about conservation and the re-adaptation of America to a low energy footprint should oppose CAFE standards. Bush's rejection of CAFE is a blessing in disguise.

coyote

What a frikken moron. I still can't believe that guy's our president.
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frankthetank

I'm starting to think we should all commute in RV' s and really up are consumption. Make this "transistion" happen faster.

Conserving fuel is only going to save us a little time...but thats just me.

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Colorado-Valley · Intermediate Crude Joined: Aug 16, 2004 Posts: 733

The current way of things looks to me like a suicide spiral.

But maybe the rest of the world can learn from watching the train wreck.

Sys1 · Intermediate Crude Joined: Feb 25, 2005 Posts: 680

Bush is right and wrong. Wrong because fuel efficient cars could be seen as many new Saudi Arabia. Right because at the end, we will have to deal without oil, whatever happens.

I think it's indeed possible to do everything we do without a drop of oil. But NOT with 6,5 BILLIONS of humans beeing. A die off will occur, or at least control birth leading to a population of some hundreds millions on Earth before century's end.
Something else : Either capitalism or mankind will come to an end. Shifting to another economic paradigm will be very difficult. American way of life worst enemy is...Itself !

untothislast

The way Bush sees it, the corporations currently selling oil (as petrol/gasoline) will make the smooth transition to selling bioethanol.

Why make the vehicles more fuel efficient, if it's going to impact on the potential sales of your product?

It's not about saving the planet. As ever, it's simple greed.

Doly · Expert Joined: Dec 03, 2004 Posts: 4040

crapattack

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