Bush: "America is addicted to Oil"

UIUCstudent01 · Intermediate Crude Joined: Mar 10, 2005 Posts: 894

Bush didn't mean 75% reduction in Middle East 'literally' - Administration

This is hilarious to me... Seriously... I'm laughing because my future is being partially determined by this fool...

Oh God...
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grabby · Light Sweet Crude Joined: Nov 08, 2005 Posts: 1328

gego · Light Sweet Crude Joined: Mar 03, 2005 Posts: 1334

I will give Bush credit for making one partially correct statement in an interview the day after his speach. He said something to the effect that we will replace 75% of oil imports by 2025 with ethanol. The correct part of the statement is that oil imports will be down 75% by 2025. They will likely be replaced with nothing, except for some liquified coal.

There always seems to be a little truth in the double speak coming out of the mouth of politicians.

grabby · Light Sweet Crude Joined: Nov 08, 2005 Posts: 1328

Dear Mr. PResident:

Here is a little opinion for you if you don't have enough to do.. You seem to want to help the country.
But your chemists and advisers must have went to a university, they can't calculate a thing.
You must get yourself some chemists that know what they are doing , you can't replace 75 % of oil imports with alcohol, it is im[possible.

here is your only option, sir if you think of making it with minimal crash

Tax every barrel of oil 50 percent tomorrow.
Use the money to build coal gas refineries tomorrow.
(TEMPORARY , we'll need them for short term, only long enough to pollute the landscape..)
Speed limit to 50 MPH.
Tax a road use of 10 cents per mile.
5 cents per mile if the vehicle weight is less than 1000 pounds
free if vehicle is under 500 pounds.
Immediately build huge coal distillers and immediately replace ALL overseas oil with coal oil.

Alcohol is not a good use of agriculture.

Immediatly devide the country into quadrants served by heavy rail that runs continuously on coal fired turbines coal locomotives.
develop sulfer stripping technology.

Immediately make airline flights illegal.
Bring back the trains, trolleys bike roads, light public trans.
We can meet over the internet and do business that way.

Immediately tax everything brought in from overseas 100 %
draw all our troops back from all nations.

Anex Canada and Mexico we need their food and oil and they are actually great people, we can work together.
immediately remove alll lawyers license to practice law.
immediately revoke all rights to sue anyone.
produce as much corn and wheat for 3 years as possible and store it.
split all giant agriculture up into sections and start diving it up into townships, each township has 640 acres to farm and they will be responsible for providing their own food within 10 years.

tax anyone living in a city of more than 50 ,000 100 dollars a day.
Use it to build more refineries.
Allow no apartments or houses within any city limit.

central heat in each township from central coal/gas heating system.
1 car per family. None to single parent families.
1 truck per business unless involved in transportation.

trollies and trains are free to ride.

Anyone caught polluting the water gets to move to alaska to help build a township there.
Remove all drug dealers in Alask so there won't be any fun up there.
(Right now people WANT to go to Alaska)

No welfare unless you are working 6 hours a day,
In the army they made them dig a hole, and in the evening they buried the hole.
similar things could be done if you can't find work.

No work excuse for sickness, you just loose your welfare.

No single family households allowed. there must be one working provider and one child caretaker per family or you can commune it.

Universities must accept only the top 10 percent of students by examination, the other 90 go to work. The rest CANNOT apply.

or,

wait for the die off and then plan the same thing cause that is where we are heading.

I know you can't do these things, but at least you knew WHAT to do.

Keep on thinking postive, but don't remove our constitutional rights for bogus reasons please. We'll elect someone else and for sure the other party.

Where is Ross Perot?

untothislast

The prime function of this speech, was to prepare the US public for the effects of approaching PO, by veiling it within what appears to be a statement on foreign policy. The oil 'isn't becoming harder to find', or 'being depleted' or becoming 'too expensive to make its extraction worthwhile' - which are the actual active components of the problem. According to Bush's interpretation, it's purely and simply down to the fact that the US is obliged to source it from politically unstable parts of the world.

Once again, the appeal is made directly to the US' default sense of security in isolation - spinning a thread of proposed self-sufficiency, to soothe and reassure those, whose panic might otherwise blow the present economic system, and the consumer society it sustains, out of the water.

The subtext is:-'You are going to notice some painful changes to the way you live but, don't worry folks - we're working on it.'

Oil was, and still is, the only viable fuel if you want to run US society on its present lines. What Bush's statement does achieve, is to make absolutely clear - that all the crap about WMDs and bringing democracy to the Iraqi people - was exactly that. The invasion of Iraq was only ever about oil - and hto gain a strategic foothold in the area of its main production. But even this (bearing in mind the declining estimates for reserves in both Kuwait and Saudi Arabia) could only ever have been seen as a stopgap measure. Now they seem to be acknowledging it the fact.

Things must be really serious.

Free

Hilarious! Opec takes Bushs statement seriously and feels threatened:

crapattack · Last edited by crapattack on Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:21 am; edited 1 time in total

Mesuge

Free> thanks for the hilarious link!

However, lets give some credit to Mr. EuroEnergyStein, he is at least able to grasp the realities about the importance of Middle East reservers..
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Free

Mesuge

Ok, good to know that. That explains why is Mr. AustriaEnergyStein probably a prominent member of some Barosso coordinated PO denial task force even in national governments..
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Free

Mesuge

I think that it is also connected to the social mems in particular society.
When Sweden announced their plan to reduce oil dependency by 2030, whatever it may entail, their general public, which is largely educated and pro environment is able to grasp it, perhaps sacrifice to some extent on individual level and go ahead..

I'm afraid that this is impossible to achieve peacefully in most of the other countries with deeper inner divisions be it racial, social, religious, educational you name it..

There was thread, were we discussed wheather the slavery could be re-installed in the US in case of the worst post PO scenario in say 50 years in semi agrararian conditions and the general sense was this is the one thing that will never happen again..

I tend to disgree, there is apparently still in place de facto segregation (not de jure) in the US, look back at Catrina. And there is slavery and segregation in many 3rd world countries today..

The future might turn pretty unpleasant in most of the places with 9bln people by 2030 and fast depleation rates for fossil liquids..
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