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pstarr Expert


Joined: Sep 27, 2004 Posts: 7086 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:33 pm Post subject: Did Carter talk to Hubbert? |
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Does anyone know if President Jimmy Carter read or was familiar with M. King Hubbert's work before his fireside chat.
| Jimmy Carter wrote: | | Tonight I want to have an unpleasant talk with you about a problem unprecedented in our history. With the exception of preventing war, this is the greatest challenge our country will face during our lifetimes. The energy crisis has not yet overwhelmed us, but it will if we do not act quickly. | I believe he spoke those words soon after the US peak. Did the two ever met? Was Carter referring to the future world peak? _________________
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bart Intermediate Crude


Joined: Aug 18, 2004 Posts: 694 Location: SF Bay Area, Calif
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:53 pm Post subject: Re: Did Carter talk to Hubbert? |
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Good question.
It may not have been necessary for Carter to have spoken to Hubbert. The ideas of energy depletion were widespread in the culture, with a high level of analysis.
For example, the April 19, 1974 issue of SCIENCE was devoted to the energy crisis.
(The articles are online at http://www.sciencemag.org/feature/data/energy/energy-1974.dtl )
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:25 pm Post subject: Re: Did Carter talk to Hubbert? |
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Thanks for the Science Article. It could have been written today. Canadian Tar sands were not yet making money and Colorado Shale was just around the corner. | Quote: | | A cautiously optimistic view appears warranted at the present. In the long run, lack of processing water may limit the size of a Rocky Mountain shale oil industry | Even 'measured' feel-good optimism should be called out. It is much more dangerous than healthy scepticism. _________________
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coyote News Editor


Joined: Oct 23, 2005 Posts: 1713 Location: East of Eden
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:49 pm Post subject: Re: Did Carter talk to Hubbert? |
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Thanks for the articles Bart. This'll be a great rebuttal to the 'somebody predicted depletion way back when...' argument. "Oh yeah? Well here's what people thought was going to save us..." _________________ "If a path to the better there be, it begins with a full look at the worst." — Thomas Hardy |
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silveredwings Coal


Joined: Jan 27, 2006 Posts: 3
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:34 pm Post subject: Re: Did Carter talk to Hubbert? |
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