Hoarding is exactly what the government is doing right now by filling the SPR, and frankly it's the best thing that could happen. It drives prices up. High prices encourage demand destruction. They also finance new well development. The hoarded oil gives us a buffer to fall back on once shortages become more prevalent. High prices are what we need in order to adapt to what's coming, and the sooner they happen, the better.
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 5:56 pm Post subject: Houston eyes cameras at apartment complexes, homes
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HOUSTON -- Houston's police chief on Wednesday proposed placing surveillance cameras in apartment complexes, downtown streets, shopping malls and even private homes to fight crime during a shortage of police officers.
"I know a lot of people are concerned about Big Brother, but my response to that is, if you are not doing anything wrong, why should you worry about it?" Chief Harold Hurtt told reporters Wednesday at a regular briefing.
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH _________________ "We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time." - TS Eliot*
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 6:08 pm Post subject: Re: Houston eyes cameras at apartment complexes, homes
The proud state of Texas. Leading America down the path of totalitarianism since 1846. _________________ I'd rather get my brains blown out in the wild than wait in terror at the slaughterhouse.
Craig Volk, Northern Exposure, A-Hunting We Will Go, 1991
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 6:20 pm Post subject: Re: Houston eyes cameras at apartment complexes, homes
Texas isn't the most repressive US state by any stretch. There's a independent streak in native Texans that does not sit well with government interference in private lives. We don't even have a state income tax.
But the idea of selling these money generating cameras, under the pretense of security is a joke. _________________ "We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time." - TS Eliot*
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 6:34 pm Post subject: Re: Houston eyes cameras at apartment complexes, homes
Hey Aarron,
I know you Texans like to think of your selfs as an independent folk. Hel, isn't there still a movement among your folk that Texas statehood was illegally ratified, and that Texas is still and independent republic.
The main problem I have with most Texans is that they believe in their own freedom to do as they please, but they don't like to extend that to any of the rest of us.
Also, those boys like to talk a good game of "We don't need no stinking government". But in the late '70s and early '80s, when the oil markets collapsed, the big boys from Houston went hat in hand to the feds saying "Help Us Please".
Duke of Indiana _________________ I'd rather get my brains blown out in the wild than wait in terror at the slaughterhouse.
Craig Volk, Northern Exposure, A-Hunting We Will Go, 1991
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 7:14 pm Post subject: Re: Houston eyes cameras at apartment complexes, homes
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The main problem I have with most Texans is that they believe in their own freedom to do as they please, but they don't like to extend that to any of the rest of us.
I don't know if that's fair... blanket judgments rarely are.
And just because traditional Texan values are fiercely independent, does not mean today's Texas is like that because there's a very large & growing non-native population here now, with different values.
And sure, the oil companies scramble for money like anyone else.
That's very Texan actually... "I'll do business with ya, and take yer money... even if I think your some kinda freak." "None of my business..."
Among us natives, the attitude is pretty much... whatever... long as you keep it on your own land, and it ain't gonna hurt any women, children or animals.
Most natives don't mind losing a fair fight... but the whole group'll lynch you if they sense you're cheaatin'.
Men we expect to kick yer ass if you act wrong, so we don't normally include them. _________________ "We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time." - TS Eliot*
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 7:30 pm Post subject: Re: Houston eyes cameras at apartment complexes, homes
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"I know a lot of people are concerned about Big Brother, but my response to that is, if you are not doing anything wrong, why should you worry about it?"
In case you were wondering if anyone ever read 1984 and said "Ya know. I'd like to live in a world like that." I don't believe this independent Texan business for a minute. Texans are into law and order. Law and order is the antithesis of freedom. Montanans are into freedom. How many people do you hear about getting executed up here? Two since the supreme court legalized it back in 1976. Texas has killed four people already this year.
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 7:39 pm Post subject: Re: Houston eyes cameras at apartment complexes, homes
Hey Aaron,
Yes my generalization is pretty broad, but I was mostly thinking of your government officials, not everyday folk ( a gentleman named Ridge comes to mind).
I must say that the times I have spent in Texas were all very good. As a teen, in the late ‘70s, I spent a summer helping rehab an orange grove just outside of McAllen. All the folks treated me like a brother, and during this time was when I developed my taste for Tex-Mex cooking. But I think the little old Mexican woman who feed us just called it supper.
As I understand it, most of the groves around McAllen are gone now. Lost to more mindless development. What a shame. It was a beautiful area.
Duke of Indiana _________________ I'd rather get my brains blown out in the wild than wait in terror at the slaughterhouse.
Craig Volk, Northern Exposure, A-Hunting We Will Go, 1991
Joined: Aug 19, 2004 Posts: 1648 Location: Republic of Texas
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 8:24 pm Post subject: Re: Houston eyes cameras at apartment complexes, homes
smallpoxgirl wrote:
Texans are into law and order. Law and order is the antithesis of freedom. Montanans are into freedom.
Right. Montana has like 940,000 people.
Texas has 23 MILLION people.
And that doesn't include the million or so here illegally who are unaccountable to society.
It's testament to our culture that we get along as well as we do.
If "law and order" means you can still expect a righteous ass-kicking for thieving or molesting, I'm for it. Otherwise, be the freak you want to be. _________________ Conform . Consume . Obey .
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 5:17 am Post subject: Re: Houston eyes cameras at apartment complexes, homes
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Texas has killed four people already this year.
Yeah... native Texans are not as squeamish about killin than some other folks.
And yeah... we produce a Delay or Johnson every now and again.
What can I tell ya?
Speckled dogs have speckled pups.
Since about half our population isn't from here these days, things are a changin.
Lots of new folks... no more fireflies... have not seen a horny-toad in years. Times change.
As always.
But lots of things the same too.
We have our own separate electrical grid for example... don't trust you Yankees to keep things runnin smooth I guess.
And Rodeo is a big deal down here. Starts next weekend... biggest Rodeo I know of.
Sure we have our problems... but at least we don't have a funny accent.
_________________ "We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time." - TS Eliot*
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 5:52 am Post subject: Re: Houston eyes cameras at apartment complexes, homes
We still have fireflies, lots of 'em (shhh, don't tell anyone). _________________ "...powerdown so soft and fluffy you'll think you're living in a pillow..." - jboogy
Joined: May 17, 2005 Posts: 386 Location: Northeast Ohio
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 2:44 pm Post subject: Re: Houston eyes cameras at apartment complexes, homes
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"I know a lot of people are concerned about Big Brother, but my response to that is, if you are not doing anything wrong, why should you worry about it?" Chief Harold Hurtt told reporters Wednesday at a regular briefing."
See, that's the argument that gets tossed about when discussing spying. It's the worst excuse ever.
Joined: May 14, 2005 Posts: 2125 Location: Along the banks of the muddy Mississippi
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 5:09 pm Post subject: Re: Houston eyes cameras at apartment complexes, homes
smallpoxgirl wrote:
Aaron wrote:
no more fireflies
No fireflies here either. It's the one real bummer about Montana.
I was sitting around the evening campfire at a primitive skills class last summer and our instructor pointed out to us that there were two different types of fireflies out that night. There was a breed that flew near the ground and another that hung out in the tops of the trees. They even had different lighting periods ... the ones in the trees, as I recall, stayed lit up longer.
So southern Missouri has lots of fireflies (and at least two different varieties of them).
The state has executed 20 people this century. _________________ “Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.” (Ted Perry)
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 9:01 pm Post subject: Re: Houston eyes cameras at apartment complexes, homes
smallpoxgirl wrote:
Aaron wrote:
no more fireflies
No fireflies here either. It's the one real bummer about Montana.
Yeah, but Montana never had fireflies. *grin*
I miss fireflies too in MN. You'll still see them in the summer in places with less human encroachment, but I know they have had to leave areas they used to inhabit.
I’ve liked all the Texans I’ve met. I don’t blame Bush on them. That transplant cannot even get the accent right. *grin* _________________ EntropyFails
"Little prigs and three-quarter madmen may have the conceit that the laws of nature are constantly broken for their sakes." -- Friedrich Nietzsche
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