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oilfreeandhappy
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 1:29 am    Post subject: No More Tractor Pulls? Nascar? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Does Peak Oil mean that there will be an end to Tractor Pulls? Darn. How about the Monster Trucks? Will Nascar go electric?

I'm not a fan of Nascar, but I'll bet that there are quite a few out there. I still find it hard to believe, but Nascar is the most popular sport in America.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 1:34 am    Post subject: Re: No More Tractor Pulls? Nascar? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Don't despair.

We will have plenty of methanol to power our racecars in the near future.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 1:41 am    Post subject: Re: No More Tractor Pulls? Nascar? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I would actually predict the opposite. The actual amount of fuel used in a Nascar race is miniscule compared to the thousands of people watching the race. I would be willing to bet that as more and more people are forced into riding the bus or car pooling to get to work, the idea of watching auto racing on TV will be more and more appealing. Actually we're probably already witnessing this phenomenon. The last of the real muscle cars was made in the early 70's. Racing has already become a spectator sport, and it will be all the more important as driving becomes a spectator sport.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 1:51 am    Post subject: Re: No More Tractor Pulls? Nascar? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

oilfreeandhappy wrote:
Does Peak Oil mean that there will be an end to Tractor Pulls? Darn. How about the Monster Trucks? Will Nascar go electric?

This is one of the unspoken fears of those who are aware of peakoil. Even the most doomerish doomer will rarely if ever broach the topic of Nascar and monster trucks. Search the archives and see how many threads you can find on it? It's taboo.

Have you heard Matt Simmons talk about it? How about the Hirsch report? Not a mention. I don't like talking about it myself.

Moderators can you delete this thread?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 3:13 am    Post subject: Re: No More Tractor Pulls? Nascar? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

seldom_seen wrote:
oilfreeandhappy wrote:
Does Peak Oil mean that there will be an end to Tractor Pulls? Darn. How about the Monster Trucks? Will Nascar go electric?

This is one of the unspoken fears of those who are aware of peakoil. Even the most doomerish doomer will rarely if ever broach the topic of Nascar and monster trucks. Search the archives and see how many threads you can find on it? It's taboo.

Have you heard Matt Simmons talk about it? How about the Hirsch report? Not a mention. I don't like talking about it myself.

Moderators can you delete this thread?


I wouldn't be offended if you moved it to Open Discussion. But you must admit, it is America's Discussion.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 3:24 am    Post subject: Re: No More Tractor Pulls? Nascar? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

oilfreeandhappy wrote:
I wouldn't be offended if you moved it to Open Discussion. But you must admit, it is America's Discussion.

oilfree! I was just being a sarcastic sombitch. Sorry that slipped past ya...
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:07 am    Post subject: Re: No More Tractor Pulls? Nascar? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

seldom_seen wrote:

This is one of the unspoken fears of those who are aware of peakoil. Even the most doomerish doomer will rarely if ever broach the topic of Nascar and monster trucks. Search the archives and see how many threads you can find on it? It's taboo.

Er-hem ... I have always held NASCAR in the same contempt that I hold McMansions and SUVs ... all mere symptoms of the sick and dying dominant culture.
Just recently I wrote:
To say that Ireland, Germany, France and Iceland are "Free" is about as meaningful as the NASCAR fan who sings "I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free. " link

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Moderators can you delete this thread?
Hehehe ... scared of the mob, are you? Razz REQUEST DENIED! Rolling Eyes

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oilfreeandhappy wrote:
I wouldn't be offended if you moved it to Open Discussion. But you must admit, it is America's Discussion.

oilfree! I was just being a sarcastic sombitch. Sorry that slipped past ya...


Learn to embrace emoticons, my friend .... Rolling Eyes makes your sarcasm clear to everyone.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 9:19 am    Post subject: Re: No More Tractor Pulls? Nascar? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Somehow I doubt we'll see the end of these anytime soon. They are spectator sports that the average joe schmoe can't possibly afford to do. Peak oil has nothing to do with desire for this type of entertainment. After all, do most airshow goers own planes, or own horses if they prefer the track? Your average Roman certainly couldn't afford to run a team in the circus maximus, yet this was a hugely popular form of entertainment for centuries. Just like Nascar, or the NFL, the fans had their favourite teams and individual drivers who were the heroes of their time. The drivers were insanely paid too, just like now.

As for affordability, the rich will have no problem buying the fuel, or equipment. I raced motorcyles in 1990, as an amateur, and knew lots of people who were spending 10's of thousands in a season. And the Canadian roadracing scene is pathetically small compared to the US or Europe. On of my freinds went pro in 92 and was spending 50k on top of the 50k and bike that Yamaha gave him. The big teams in Europe are well funded by comparison; Valentio Rossi, the world Motogp champ, makes in excess of 10 million a season, in wages alone.

'give them bread and circuses'

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 10:27 am    Post subject: Re: No More Tractor Pulls? Nascar? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

seldom_seen wrote:
oilfreeandhappy wrote:
I wouldn't be offended if you moved it to Open Discussion. But you must admit, it is America's Discussion.

oilfree! I was just being a sarcastic sombitch. Sorry that slipped past ya...


No problem. The original post was somewhat of a sarcastic joke. I laughed heartily when I read your reply. Haven't laughed that hard in a long time!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:07 pm    Post subject: Re: No More Tractor Pulls? Nascar? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

And good riddance to bad rubbish, I say. At the very least it'll stop the half-wits from trying to imitate them outside my bedroom window at 3 am.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 10:01 am    Post subject: Re: No More Tractor Pulls? Nascar? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Research in the '70's showed that there was more fuel consumption caused by football games than any vehicle related sports. It's not the vehicles themselves that cause the consumption - it's the spectators.
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