Thanks for the link.
My brother's wife's father is Vietnamese and has a degenerative macular disorder. Its safe to say hes probably ingested massive amounts of the stuff.
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 3:00 pm Post subject: Re: Why do Americans register party affiliation?
Why do Americans have to register party affiliation?
You register so you can vote for the primaries. During primaries, different party affiliation will get different ballots. Some parties have open ballot, so you don't need to be register to that party to get the ballot.
In the general election, no one cares which party you are. You get same ballot.
Who do they register with?
You register to the state registrars office.
You get to choose a party to register or as independent, etc.
Who has access to this list?
Anyone can access this list.
Anyone can access your voting list, too!
So, I can identify if someone voted or not. These are all public information.
Joined: Aug 18, 2004 Posts: 694 Location: SF Bay Area, Calif
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 3:30 pm Post subject: Re: Why do Americans register party affiliation?
Professor Goose wrote:
it's a creature of the Progressive reforms in the 20s and 30s that led to the primaries and the weakening of the parties.
The weakening of the parties has actually been bad for progressive politics.
Without strong parties, money and monied interests have more power. In California where I live, the party organizations are weak compared to say, Pennsylvania. As a result, real estate interests are very powerful in local poltiics.
I remember a reporter from Pennsylvania started working for our newspaper and was shocked to see how little working people participated in our politics. "It's all lawyers and real estate brokers!" he said.
In the US as a whole, the weakening of parties means that money can buy elections through expensive media campaigns.
It's important to register as a member of a party if you want to maximize the effectiveness of your vote. I'm registered Democrat even though my sympathies are more with the Greens. In primary elections, I help determine who the Democratic candidates will be. Later in the final election, I can vote for whomever I please.
Note: I realize that PG was speaking historically, so I'm not disagreeing with him. The "Progressives" as a historical movement were opposed to big city political machines. Many Progressives were wealthy Anglos distressed by the political power of the immigrant urban populations, as well as to the corruption.
Joined: Aug 19, 2004 Posts: 1682 Location: Republic of Texas
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 3:35 pm Post subject: Re: Why do Americans register party affiliation?
Closed primaries also keep one party from raiding the other party's primary.
Raiding a Primary works like this... Republicans vote in the Democrat's primary to help put the least electable Democrat on the general election ballot. This makes it easier for the Republican candidate to later win the general election. _________________ Conform . Consume . Obey .
But claiming there might have been systemic fraud in the Presidential elections is all a bunch of liberal paranoia, right?
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At first it seemed like he was a free agent working on his own with maybe one or two people. But then pretty quickly we saw that the Republican National Committee was spending millions to help with his legal defense. That shot us some pretty large red flags among people in the state
Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 5:07 am Post subject: Re: Senior Bush Campaign Official Jailed Over Vote Suppressi
It never ends.
I recently watched a (heavily compressed) video off ICH which had a
lot of scandalous stuff I wasn't aware of regarding the 2000 and 2004
US presidential elections, which were likely stolen. Worth watching:
This chilling documentary film "Orwell Rolls in His Grave" examines the relationship between the media, corporate America, and government. In a country where the "top 1% control 90% of the wealth", the film argues that the media system is nothing but a "subsidiary of corporate America."
Director: Robert Kane Pappas - Run Time 1 Hour 46 Minutes
What's depressing is this is now common knowledge. The question
is whether anyone in the US cares enough to do anything. The
answer is apparently no.
Joined: May 24, 2004 Posts: 3428 Location: California, USA
Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 2:43 am Post subject: Re: Senior Bush Campaign Official Jailed Over Vote Suppressi
Well, good!
Now IMHO the primary goal of prison is to protect the public from the criminal. The problem with Mr. Phone-Jammer getting only ten months is, he gets out in time to start wreaking havoc with the 2008 elections. So were I the judge, I would have kept him locked up good & safe until, let's say, mid November 2008.
But on the other hand, 10 months at least keeps him locked up through the 2006 elections, so he can't do any harm there.
And yeah, this thing smells like Karl Rove (ewww!). Must investigate further.
Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 7:44 am Post subject: Re: Senior Bush Campaign Official Jailed Over Vote Suppressi
Why wasn't this plastered all over the "liberal-biased" mainstream media again? /sarcasm _________________ The whole of human history is a refutation by experiment of the concept of "moral world order". - Friedrich Nietzsche
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 12:53 pm Post subject: Re: USA Dictatorship?
Quote:
Yeah, kinda spooky isn't it! FEMA will be running the show and if New Orleans is an example you can just imagine how "Operation Garden Plot" is going to play out. Just a matter of a couple of signatures and poof - instant police state.
Annex A, section B of Operation Garden Plot defines tax protesters, militia groups, religious cults, and general anti-government dissenters as Disruptive Elements. This calls for the deadly force to be used against any extremist or dissident perpetrating any and all forms of civil disorder.
Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 1194 Location: England
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 1:13 pm Post subject: Re: USA Dictatorship?
greenworm wrote:
Quote:
Yeah, kinda spooky isn't it! FEMA will be running the show and if New Orleans is an example you can just imagine how "Operation Garden Plot" is going to play out. Just a matter of a couple of signatures and poof - instant police state.
Annex A, section B of Operation Garden Plot defines tax protesters, militia groups, religious cults, and general anti-government dissenters as Disruptive Elements. This calls for the deadly force to be used against any extremist or dissident perpetrating any and all forms of civil disorder.
Notice the "deadly force". Remember the wto talks in Seattle.
Don't you think that almost every government has similar "end of the world" preparations in place ... although probably only as a document. _________________ Technology will save us!
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 1:49 pm Post subject: Re: USA Dictatorship?
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Don't you think that almost every government has similar "end of the world" preparations in place ... although probably only as a document.
Have no idea, maybe do a search.
I was wondering why 'tax protester' was listed, I was under the impression that those who do not pay income tax were hardly investigated since under the table jobs really don't provide enough wages to make it worth while to search them out and prosecute. That is until I did a search on tax protester. I guess the ol' constitution doesn't actually have a law per se that makes it legal to tax the citizenry. In fact, the income tax came about in 1913, the same year as the federal reserve. Here is another nugget of knowledge, the gov't spies on you financial transactions. Pretty scary when we add it all up. I would have to say that the US is more of a corporatist state than a dictatorial state. The following film pretty much backs up my claims.
Joined: May 14, 2005 Posts: 2125 Location: Along the banks of the muddy Mississippi
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 4:17 pm Post subject: Re: USA Dictatorship?
greenworm wrote:
Annex A, section B of Operation Garden Plot defines tax protesters, militia groups, religious cults, and general anti-government dissenters as Disruptive Elements. This calls for the deadly force to be used against any extremist or dissident perpetrating any and all forms of civil disorder.
Notice the "deadly force". Remember the wto talks in Seattle.
Uh, I'm as willing to entertain the possibility of any and all conspiracies as the next guy, but I'm not even going to waste my time reading a web-based document that starts out
Quote:
Acquired via a circuitous route from the Internet. Sources have been deleted to protect their identity.
Sorry, I need something a bit more solid than that. I mean, one can write absolutely anything one wants to write and claim one got it from "high placed government insiders who must remain anonymous for their own safety".
Show me a legitimate govenment website that has "Operation Garden Plot" posted on it and I'll take it seriously. For example, in this thread, Seahorse gave us a link to the Department of Homeland Security's Office of Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) website that had a pdf document detailing "Operation Endgame", which discussed the plan to construct "detainment" camps. We all saw the document on the DHS website and it was quite disconcerting.
(Note: In looking at that link just now, I see that the Endgame pdf file has been removed ... hmmm?) _________________ “Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.” (Ted Perry)
Air Force policy directive on homeland security. It's on a USAF website. In the references section, you will find "USAF Plan 55-2, DoD Civil Disturbance Plan (GARDEN PLOT)" _________________ "I was born in a deep forest
I wish I could live here all my life
I am made from stones and roots
My home, these woods and roads
All my life I loved this sound
Of the woods all around
Eagles fly where the winds blow free" -Korpiklaani
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