THE Canada Thread (merged)

threadbear · Expert Joined: Jan 22, 2005 Posts: 7126

Marko, Well done. What province are you thinking of? I might have a few pointers.

threadbear · Expert Joined: Jan 22, 2005 Posts: 7126

Four of Swords, I thought the soil in the prairies was kind of low grade. My grandfather had been a farmer before he immigrated to the prairies and I can remember when he visited us in Trenton, Ontario, a few decades ago, he remarked on what fantastic soil we had in Southern Ontario. He kept repeating it, and as I was only 11, I though he was the weirdest man on the planet. Hadn't seen him for 5 years and all he could talk about was dirt.

Other than that one little question, that's a pretty good overview you posted.

FourOfSwords · Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:45 pm Post subject: Re: Canada - during & post-peak

Threadbear, thanks for the encouragement. I've had a few years of studying this more to do with enviromental degradation, before I even knew about PO. Now it scares me tenfold.
Your Grandfather was correct though. At one time the Prairies did have the richest, most fertile soil this side of the Atlantic. At around the end of WWII, big agri-bus. came along and promised 100% crop yield increases with the introduction of petro chemicals and associated fertilizers and pesticides. This was done because the very wise practice of crop rotation was dropped if crop yields were to increase as promised. The end result of this after a generation or so, was all the fertile topsoil was depleted and all you were left with was a 'sponge' of earth that only became viable when tons of petro chemicals were applied to it.
So your grampa was correct all right. Mind you today that same type of agri-bus. is now present in Ontario to a much larger degree. Draw a triangle from Guelph to Owen Sound to Chatham and you will find the same problem.
'all he could talk about was dirt', he was a true farmer then, and talking about dirt certainly is less depressing than PO! Smile

Alex

JoeCoal · Heavy Crude Joined: Feb 02, 2006 Posts: 296

No.

The longest undefended border in the wold will become a heavily defended wall. To keep the Merican Zombies OUT!
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marko · Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:16 am Post subject: Re: Canada - during & post-peak

nero · Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:13 am Post subject: Re: Canada - during & post-peak

Hi Marko,

I like your picks in the Annapolis valley. I think those are very reasonable locations.
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threadbear · Expert Joined: Jan 22, 2005 Posts: 7126

When I lived in Ontario, I recall Prince Edward County as being just gorgeous. Apparently it still is, it's somewhat isolated, as it's on an island, and has an agricultural base.

http://www.pec.on.ca/Welcome.html

http://www.mls.ca/map.aspx

Click on Ontario, then click on area number 7. Then click on Quinte area. You're there!

crapattack

aswerfawf wrote:

zoidberg

Canada will never "merge". While Canada's military is not large enough to defend even a single city, we will still fight to defend our independence. After the front has swept over us, we will use guerrilla warfare. History teaches that long supply lines are a terrible burden. And it gets cold up here in winter, a determined guerrilla resistance would grind down an occupation force quickly over a few years. Plus hopefully the American soldiers would have a harder time oppressing a people who look, talk, and even think like they do. Besides I think Canada annexing the juicy parts of the US is more likely.

Side note, Canadians would not become suicide bombers. We are warriors who can think up better strategies than strapping explosives to ourselves(like for instance finding ways of putting explosives on our enemies) and would find better ways to strike and fight another day. Plus we have a fundamental respect for human life.

Suicide bombers are a tactic borne of desperation and frustration, and maybe even incompetence.

Perhaps a quote from Winston Churchill would be appropriate here:
We will fight them in the prairies, we will fight them in the Shield, we will never give up.

JRALTUS · Coal Joined: Mar 23, 2006 Posts: 1

I'm an expatriate from Manitoba that has lived in Oklahoma for the last 10 years.

Canada has a lot going for it, no doubt. I left @ age 26 because of climate & gun control ( no hand guns allowed & gun registry was coming up back then). Back then I didn't think there was much of a culture difference, but I was wrong. Message here is moving to a new country may be more challenging than anticipated, even one as similar as Canada. Particularly if you're married. Being far from extended family is no prize winner either.

uNkNowN ElEmEnt · Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 3:38 pm Post subject: Re: Canada - during & post-peak

I get a kick out of how some say we (in Canada) pride ourselves on being individualistic and self-reliant but that we would probably merge with any part of the US.

If you are talking about Alberta, yes, they'd love to be American lap dogs. But the rest of us are very proud and when anyone outside of the US commonly talks about the Canadian view point they say it is actually more European than American. Note to Americans: GET OVER YOURSELF... We do not want to be like you!

I also find it rather humourous how everyone talks about the possibility of a war between the US and Canada but then assumes we would roll over and die. For the ignorant among you... the US may have more toys but what we lack in toys we make up for in training and expertise.

My nephew is a sniper in the PPCLI's. He went to Afghanistan and was given a new sniper rifle when he got there. He had to "set it up"; don't ask me what that means. He chased 4 bullets one after the other. He hit the target all in the first three rings and the American's standing around thought he was full of it becasue he didn't think that wasn't good enough. He wasn't satisified and had to keep adjusting his rifle until he managed to chase several more through close to or touching the same dead centre hole.

This is apparently standard for snipers in our Armed Forces. My sister is a master marksman in the Airforce here and she assures me that we would not roll over so easily. After all, the Americans can't even subdue a bunch of third worlders, what makes any of you think we'd be easier?

Dingbat · Tar Sands Joined: Apr 11, 2005 Posts: 24

Some good news for once.

It seems that the Quebec Liberals are "getting it" (the current government in power in the province of Quebec).

- They are going to give tax credits to companies that pay for their employees public transit passes. Up to 700$/year per employee. That's about how much it costs for a montrealer to pay for public transit for a year.

- They are going to going to give tax rebates on the purchase of hybrid vehicules. Inneficient gas guzzlers (SUVs) are already penalised by the SAAQ (Automobile Insurance of Quebec more or less) and the trend is that they are going to make it worst for people to own anything that goes less than 25 MPG.

- A special levee on water will be taken from all corporations that profit from selling water and will be redirected to a "Generations fund".

- Billions will be put into getting public transportation modernized. Montreal will get light trains on some arteries soon.

- Quebec has already abandonned plans to build gas-fired electrical plants in favor of wind-mills.

I'm actually getting hopefull here.

- Ding.

uNkNowN ElEmEnt

WINNIPEG, Manitoba (Reuters) - The Canadian government will soon announce a biofuel strategy that will mandate that all gasoline sold by 2010 must contain 5 percent biofuel, a renewable energy source, Agriculture Minister Chuck Strahl said on Wednesday.

"I will be rolling out our biofuel strategy in the days ahead and I'm working with Environment Minister (Rona) Ambrose to ensure that farmers actually benefit from our commitment to 5 percent biofuels," Strahl told a news conference in Ottawa.

Biofuel production will open a new domestic market for grain and oilseed farmers, whose products are the main ingredients of biofuel.

"The reason we have a 2010 deadline, or a 2010 moment, on the biofuel is that it is going to take some time to fill that pipeline," Strahl said.

Strahl wants to ensure there will be time to establish enough processing plants to allow Canada to produce the biofuel to meet the quota rather than be forced to import it.

penguin · Coal Joined: Apr 13, 2006 Posts: 1

I believe that the Americas will become one huge nation with regional governments having most of the power. For a look at what North America might look like, go to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_Nations_of_North_America

Kingcoal

"Article XI. Canada acceding to this confederation, and adjoining in the measures of the United States, shall be admitted into, and entitled to all the advantages of this Union; but no other colony shall be admitted into the same, unless such admission be agreed to by nine States."

Excerpt from The Articles of Confederation, circa 1781. This document predated pre-dated the Constitution. Technically, the offer is still open to Canada.