We cannot drill our way out of this oil crisis. Since 2000, oil companies working in the U.S. have doubled the number of wells drilled per year.
Although increased drilling has added new oil to the nation's supply, it has not done so fast enough to offset the terminal decline of existing fields.
We are going to have to import more of our oil. Period.
Joined: Sep 30, 2004 Posts: 976 Location: On one of the blades of the fan
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 1:07 pm Post subject: Stove/ cooking
Lets assume, wherever you are, you need to cook.
If the electricity/gas is out or intermittent, what's the best type of portable stove -
I remember on family camping hols in the distant past we had Camping Gaz (propane?) single burner stove with small blue canisters. Which worked ok, and are still around, but there may be something better.
Joined: Oct 19, 2004 Posts: 108 Location: Carlisle, PA
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 2:28 pm Post subject:
When we camp, we just cook over a wood fire.
However, we are planning a 9-day canoe camping trip next fall in Ontario with 4 other folks. The idea is, you break camp after breakfast in the morning, canoe and portage for a few hours, then make camp again for the next day. You have to be able to haul you need for the whole way, so weight becomes critical.
But you do want a stove just cause you can arrive in camp wet, tired and hungry and starting a wood fire and having to wait for a cup of coffee or cocoa would be excrutiating. So a fullsize camp stove is right out due to the weight.
Basically, it'll burn anything... twigs, leaves, pine cones, whatever. And it boils water *fast*. The best fuel is chacrcoal leftover from wood fires. And it weighs almost nothing; a lot of the lightweight hiking sites like it and use it regularly.
It does need a battery to power the fan... that's how it gets so hot so fast.
I figure it for a quick hot meal when we get to camp, to fuel everyone for setting up camp and getting the fire together for the main meal.
We'll probably also use it for coffee during regular camping too once we get it, just cause waiting to get the fire started and the water boiling in the morning is rough for us caffeine addicts.
Man, that 999kits place is a rip off, you could have something just as good as their 1 Person Basic Kit for less easily. A litre and a half of water? you could buy that in bottles that'll withstand a pummeling for a couple of quid at the most...
Joined: Sep 16, 2004 Posts: 4025 Location: Southwest WI
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 2:35 pm Post subject:
google "hobo stove" i've made a couple and they burn like a jet engine! Just use twigs and what not to get it going and then feed in a few thicker brances. I blackened a bunch of really nice pans, so make sure you protect your pans. I guess covering in aluminum foil works. Nice thing about a stove thats basically free is that you don't have to carry fuel with you.
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