Like the illusion of Wall Street, with its vast and powerful investment banks, now shuttered, China too is an illusion perpetuated by the Globalists that gave us the 15,000 mile Caesar salad, poisoned cat food and lead based paint on babies' pacifiers. Like the illusion that money would come from thin air to always push housing prices higher, China has spent a generation pursuing its illusion. Pursuing an unattainable dream to be like the West, while 6000 years of its carefully shepherded top soil blows into the sea.
First post. Got here via the oil drum.
I'm 28, male, awfully ignorant and trying learn. I guess I've been aware of the unsustainability of the current course of humanity for quite some time, but the concept of PO is relatively new to me. Wrapping my feeble mind around this complex an issue feels like a daunting task, but a necessary one. If the fabric of society is about to come apart, preparedness is crucial.
Apart from learning, I'm looking for a sense of community. Having tried preaching a gloomy energy outlook to my surroundings, I mostly find the response to be patronizing unrealistic optimism and ignoreance even greater than my own (and what's worse, willful ignoreance at that).
Fundamentally I'm a utopian optimist, but my hopes for humanity requires a timespan that greatly exceeds how long I expect to live. I think a dark age is coming, and that right soon. I hope it will be short, and followed by an era of forward-looking and reason.
Sure hope not
The way I see it, there are two things that really need be feared. Either a venusian runaway greenhouse effect or a Great Big Rock from Space could do us all in. Barring that, Im certain at least some of us will pull through, and some is enough. Give us a few more millennia, and we might just learn right from wrong. We're still monkeys, but if you look at a long enough timeline, I'm sure you'll agree with me that we are actually improving? Sapiens is better than Erectus is better than slimy bacteria, IMHO.
First post. Got here via the oil drum.
I'm 28, male, awfully ignorant and trying learn. I guess I've been aware of the unsustainability of the current course of humanity for quite some time, but the concept of PO is relatively new to me. Wrapping my feeble mind around this complex an issue feels like a daunting task, but a necessary one. If the fabric of society is about to come apart, preparedness is crucial.
Apart from learning, I'm looking for a sense of community. Having tried preaching a gloomy energy outlook to my surroundings, I mostly find the response to be patronizing unrealistic optimism and ignoreance even greater than my own (and what's worse, willful ignoreance at that).
Fundamentally I'm a utopian optimist, but my hopes for humanity requires a timespan that greatly exceeds how long I expect to live. I think a dark age is coming, and that right soon. I hope it will be short, and followed by an era of forward-looking and reason.
Welcome! You sound like a realist, and an optimistic pessimist. Me too!
The way I see it, there are two things that really need be feared. Either a venusian runaway greenhouse effect or a Great Big Rock from Space could do us all in.
You sure did your reading before posting. How long did you read before you started to post? It took me about 9 months from first 'initial interest' to 'final impact'.
...Wrapping my feeble mind around this complex an issue feels like a daunting task, but a necessary one.
The fact that you are here proves that you are not as feeble minded as you think! Welcome!
Let us pity the fools who just bought a McMansion with a garage big enough to park their new Hummer -- now THAT'S feeble-minded... _________________ Good night, and good luck...
You sure did your reading before posting. How long did you read before you started to post?
On this board, only a couple of days (nights, really). More lurking required, but realising the greatness and usability of this place I thought I might as well register. I've been reading about PO for a couple of months or so, but sustainability has been an interest since high school or even earlier.
JoeCoal wrote:
Let us pity the fools who just bought a McMansion with a garage big enough to park their new Hummer
Lots of people excercise their right to make bad decisions, and perhaps some measure of pity is in order. My old man just decided it's a good time to buy a frickin' powerboat. Sure, it's a small one and he can afford to frivolously burn through a couple of tanks every summer even if fuel prices would quadruple tomorrow, but I still think it's a bad idea and I told him so, but without getting hysterical about it. I'm more of a sailing kind of guy myself...
I take it that left arrow thingy should be read as "back". Or "left"? Neither of those sentiments get me down, as I agree with both of them to a certain extent.
Edit: Ah, now I see! It's a point-at-the-avatar arrow! *slaps forehead*
I'm all for discussing the past-PO future of sailing and boatbuilding at length, but I think it belongs in a dedicated thread someplace other than "welcome"?
We're still monkeys, but if you look at a long enough timeline, I'm sure you'll agree with me that we are actually improving? Sapiens is better than Erectus is better than slimy bacteria, IMHO.
Bacteria, erectus and sapiens all compete with each other and with other species. It's the name of the game of life.
I do admit that the bill of human rights was an incredible breakthrough though. But why would anyone live and let live when you can gain so much by taking (Genghis Kahn).
Don't mind me I'm just rambling...
Welcome anyway! _________________ Hello, my name is Rax. I live in the Amazon jungle with a bunch of women. We are super eco feminists and our favourite passtimes are dangling men by their ankles and discussing peak oil. - apparently
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