How then, do we move backwards? How does a society, with most of the people having no clue of future events, move from being dependent on a vast and intertwined network of goods and services produced by the indigenous people of whereever, to a local resource and renewable energy based society, and do so in the timeframe available (20-30 years using the most liberal extimates, 10-20 with resonable estimates, 5-10 with worst case scenarios), all the while prices on everything increasing, world politics getting more militaristic, governments continuously reducing civil liberties, shortages of goods on the market and weather patterns resembling bad Hollywood movies?
Joined: Sep 19, 2005 Posts: 1113 Location: OR, USA
Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:13 pm Post subject: Re: The New PO Spokesman?
PenultimateManStanding wrote:
It kept breaking up on me, but I got the gist of it: smug self-recriminations. Heaven forbid a nation should follow it's own self-interest. Too bad the rest of the world is watching as the west implodes in self-doubt.
Heaven forbid a nation should follow it's own self-interest???
There's a difference between negotiating skillfully in trade deals and such and organizing coups to overthrow democratically elected officials in order to replace them with despots, my friend. Not to mention invading a tiny defenseless country after country.
What we are seeing today is global blowback against our foreign policy of the past 56 years.
Joined: Jun 26, 2004 Posts: 1189 Location: Madison,Wisconsin
Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:16 pm Post subject: Re: The New PO Spokesman?
Very glad we got it visable, because I think this will be a useful explanitory tool. Plus it provides alot of background from a non US perspective. That part was useful in and of itself. _________________ Azreal60
"Capitalism is not sustainable by its very nature. It is predicated on infinitely expanding markets, faster consumption and bigger production in a finite planet. And yet this ideological model remains the central organising principle of our lives, and as long as it continues to be so it will automatically undo (with its invisible hand) every single green initiative anybody cares to come up with." _________________ Kiss Hank's Ass And He Will Give You a Million Dollars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDp7pkEcJVQ
Joined: Sep 02, 2005 Posts: 2848 Location: In a Nigerian compound surrounded by mighty dignataries
Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 5:03 pm Post subject: Re: The New PO Spokesman?
I watched a interview with him Saturday on the Henry Rollins show. Yeah- he know his stuff, very smart. If you have cable or the dish maybe you can catch a repeat on IFC(Independent Film Channel) _________________ In other words, it's a huge sh*t sandwich, and we're all gonna have to take a bite.-from Full Metal Jacket
ROBERT NEWMAN - FROM CALIBAN TO THE TALIBAN (500 YEARS OF HUMANITARIAN INTERVENTION)
Full 90 minute stand up performance captured live at the Pavilion Theatre, Brighton in 2004.
This is the story of a 500 year global terror campaign waged with goodwill to all. It starts with a 1609 Bermuda shipwreck and takes us via the Berlin - Baghdad railway, Sandinista guerrillas and Dr Watson in northwest Kandahar to the USA's good works in Vietnam, Guatemala, El Salvador, Cambodia and Chile.
The story's happy ending is how Britain's philanthropic mission to Iraq has made the world safe for democracy and given us all that optimism about the future we all enjoy so much today.
This 90 minute live DVD was recorded at Robert's sell-out gigs at the Brighton Corn Exchange theatre, during the 2003 Paramount Comedy Festival. See Robert's critically acclaimed From Caliban to the Taliban set in its entirety. Directed by Dan Martin of Low Key Productions. _________________ Let us make him who shall nourish and sustain us. What shall we do to be invoked; to be remembered in the earth.
We have tried with our first creatures but we could not make them venerate us.
So let us try to make obedient respectful beings who shall
Joined: Jan 04, 2005 Posts: 623 Location: Australia
Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 10:46 pm Post subject: Re: The New PO Spokesman?
A comedian as a peak oil spokesman? How appropriate... _________________ "Production of useful work is limited by the laws of thermodynamics, but the production of useless work seems to be unlimited."
I regged twice there in an attempt to gain access without success.
Maybe it has a 24 hour time delay between registration and access? _________________ Kiss Hank's Ass And He Will Give You a Million Dollars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDp7pkEcJVQ
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