Joined: Nov 11, 2004 Posts: 977 Location: Heart of Canada's Oil Country
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:06 pm Post subject: Robert Hirsch Presentation in Calgary
I attended Robert Hirsch’s presentation at the UofC today. Essentially it’s a trimmed down power point version of his report, Peaking of World Oil Production: Impacts, Mitigation and Risk Management.
I have to say, he’s a very straight laced, no-nonsense kind of guy. It was a very good introduction for newbies, although after reading his original report I didn’t find much new in it. He covered the basics of oil production, showed all of the different projected peak dates by EIA, ExxonMobil, CERA, Campbell, ex-Saudi Aramaco officials etc., and then went on to show what their research says is needed to mitigate. One of the new things I did see was how they’ve incorporated the various “commercial ready” mitigation efforts, CTL, EOR, heavy oil, fuel efficiency increases etc. and he also made it clear that even if these mitigation efforts are rolled out in full force, it’s only under ExxonMobile’s 2030+ date where we can feel confident that we won't encounter any negative effects from Peak Oil. My one disappointment was that he talked of Peak Oil as a liquid fuels crisis, which I agree it is, but it’s also an economic crisis. Perhaps he didn’t want to dump too much do-do on everyone.
At the end I was able to ask him just what exactly the relationship between him, his original report and the DOE is. (Cuz it was never clear to me if the DOE asked him to do it etc.) He stated that “they” (him and his co-authors) approached the DOE with the idea, the DOE agreed to fund it and then when they delivered it, the DOE didn’t quite know what to do with it. He said in general that it’s only been in the last few years where talking about peaking of world oil production hasn’t been considered as “fringe” and that things are “bubbling up” now in the government.
In his language choice you could tell he thinks are going to be bad but would rather get people to act then scare the do-do out of them, so he went to pains to not come across as a scare monger. IMO he’s exactly the type of Peak Oil prophet that needs to be heard.
edit - cleaned up my language! _________________ Do not underestimate the difficulties of surviving the transition of peak oil, nor the dangers of global warming. We must embrace nuclear energy and renewables.
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:52 pm Post subject: Re: Robert Hirsch Presentation in Calgary
that's very interesting that he approached the DOE! I wondered about that when I read his report. Thanks for the report and the information! _________________ There is no where to go but Earth!
Except for space ......
Joined: Oct 15, 2004 Posts: 2089 Location: Arkansas
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:38 pm Post subject: Re: Robert Hirsch Presentation in Calgary
Fatherof2,
When you asked him about his earlier report, were you asking him about his 1980's? report that RGR has mentioned? Great question and I hope you can give us some more details as to why he did that report in the 80s. Was he just crying wolf in the 80s or do you think he believes PO is going to happen this decade for example.
Joined: Nov 11, 2004 Posts: 977 Location: Heart of Canada's Oil Country
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 4:29 pm Post subject:
seahorse wrote:
Fatherof2,
When you asked him about his earlier report, were you asking him about his 1980's? report that RGR has mentioned? Great question and I hope you can give us some more details as to why he did that report in the 80s. Was he just crying wolf in the 80s or do you think he believes PO is going to happen this decade for example.
No I asked him about the recent one. I've sorta heard on this site about this supposed 80's report, and before the presentation I thought I should ask him ... but didn't. (Don't ask why, I'm not sure myself... I was distracted by his presentation?)
As for when he thinks PO will be, I don't think he'd ever directly answer that question. Partly because he recognizes the data is poor, not agreed upon and subject to political manipulation. Plus he chooses his language carefully; he doesn't want to be the one yelling fire in a packed theatre.
But you can tell when he says things like "with normal depletion, and with full blown mitigation efforts (CAFE increases, EOR, heavy oil/oil sands etc.) we are only in ok shape if peak is 2030+" Otherwise it's recession or depression.
Almost every slide had in red at the bottom : THINK RISK.
I've asked the university if his power point presentation will be made available... _________________ Do not underestimate the difficulties of surviving the transition of peak oil, nor the dangers of global warming. We must embrace nuclear energy and renewables.
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