I know I yelled loud and clear the day they started talking about what had been done at Kyoto. If you don't bind China and India, it is a pointless excercise. They are going to blow the doors off our own emissions in just a few more years. Indonesia is also important to keep figured into the puzzle.
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Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 8:19 am Post subject: Re: Coal emissions alarming in India: report
They have no intention of cleaning things up:
India says to tackle poverty before global warming _________________ "Thank you for attending the oil age. We're going to scrape what we can out of these tar pits in Alberta and then shut down the machines and turn out the lights. Goodnight." - seldom_seen
Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 3:51 am Post subject: Re: Coal emissions alarming in India: report
India says to tackle poverty before global warming
It's no suprise they say that, very short sighted and idiotic, but its' in our nature. I expect they'll keep buring coal untill they're all dead. _________________ "One minute I held the key, next the walls were closed on me, and I discovered that my castle stands upon pillars of salt and pillars of sand."
Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 4:11 am Post subject: Re: Coal emissions alarming in India: report
Quote:
India says to tackle poverty before global warming
Proving once again, we are no better than animals, who have no long-term vision and do not understand that the environment is fragile. When they are all dying in the streets, than perhaps they will understand.
"The air was so thick that I thought I was choking," she said. "The pollution was just unbelievable. All the locals wore surgical masks, and so did almost everyone in our group. I would get back to the hotel room and I had black lines of soot all over my face"....China today burns more coal than the combined consumption of the United States, the European Union, and Japan. China has increased its coal consumption by about 14% in each of the past two years, and will continue to do so. Every 7-10 days, another coal-fired power plant begins to operate somewhere in China, with generating capacity sufficient to serve all of the households in a city the size of Tampa or Seattle.
They're not going to get away with this. We're watching a horrendous environmental catastrophe unfold before our eyes at
stunning speed.
We really are spectators at a train wreck. All those analogies apply. _________________ "Thank you for attending the oil age. We're going to scrape what we can out of these tar pits in Alberta and then shut down the machines and turn out the lights. Goodnight." - seldom_seen
Joined: Apr 28, 2006 Posts: 2897 Location: East Texas
Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:11 pm Post subject: Re: Coal emissions alarming in India: report
Zardoz wrote:
They're not going to get away with this. We're watching a horrendous environmental catastrophe unfold before our eyes at
stunning speed.
Of course they are. They aren't going to ask us stupid barbarians for permission.
Also, I think it may be purposeful.
You're a central committee guy, sitting in nice, cool, filtered air. You and your buds are sitting at the dinner table surrounded by fine food and beer. The topic of discussion is... How do we end up with a unified China, flush with power and technology, and with a population of 100 million. Ideas are bandied about for a while, but reality in the end defines the solution.
1.) reduce the birth rate
2.) reduce the lifespan of Ming Lee Peasant.
#1 - one child policy, sorta. Exceptions provided for the "important" people.
#2 - crank up the pollution, air, soil and water, it'll eventually take its toll. Of course the Important People will have their bottled water and packaged food sent in from Taipei and Japan... Once there's only a 100 million folks around, they can turn off the coal generators, leave the nukes online, and leverage their strategic petroleum reserves to pay for any important cleanups that need to be performed. _________________ abundance fleeting
men falling like hungry leaves
decay masters all
Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:46 pm Post subject: Re: Coal emissions alarming in India: report
Battle_Scarred_Galactico wrote:
India says to tackle poverty before global warming
It's no suprise they say that, very short sighted and idiotic, but its' in our nature. I expect they'll keep buring coal untill they're all dead.
Can you blame them?
Our whole world paradigm is growth is good. More GDP, bigger homes, bigger salary, greater wealth, more consumption, retire without working, live longer more operations and medicine.....
How can a Westerner for example a US citizen who comprises 5% of the planets population consuming 25% of oil resources (and a good percentage of other resources also) deny someone in a mud hut electricity or a car for a village?
Then you have all the talk about primitive society, backwards, underdeveloped contrasted against our own greatness, technological achievenents, engineering and architectural marvels etc...
Unfortunately I think we are locked into a death grip with planet earth. Only problem is you can't choke a rock... now humans they're killable. _________________ "Once the game is over, the king and the pawn go back in the same box."
-Italian Proverb
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