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Sys1
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 Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 3:51 pm Post subject: Peak oil starts to hurt americans people. |
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Scary article, far from graphics, numbers, geopolitic and Hubbert curb.
This is the real life. We are not yet to 100$ (even 80$) a barrel but people (at least some) are already suffering from the coming collapse of suburbia, struggling helplessly to maintain their unstainable way of life. I'm sad for them, especially because i know that it's gonna get from worse to ugly. |
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rogerhb
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 4:18 pm Post subject: Re: Peak oil starts to hurt americans people. |
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| Sys1 wrote: | | This is the real life. |
So is the bombing Lebanon and Gaza, so is the mess in Iraq, so is Afghanistan. It's not a TV show.
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gnm
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 4:33 pm Post subject: Re: Peak oil starts to hurt americans people. |
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| Sys1 wrote: | | struggling helplessly to maintain their unstainable way of life. I'm sad for them, especially because i know that it's gonna get from worse to ugly. |
Well heres one american who is not struggling to maintain the unsustainable status quo. Just got some nice solar thermal panels. That should make a nice dent in propane costs this year. If there is one thing we have in NM its LOTS OF SUN.
Thanks for the sympathy but don't worry, you folks in Europe will get to enjoy the ride down as well. Maybe it will be slower, but maybe not. I have a feeling there will be plenty of pain to go around.
roger roger... makes my head hurt to think what its like to conduct your daily buisness in one of those hotbeds! Talk about stress!
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rogerhb
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 5:05 pm Post subject: Re: Peak oil starts to hurt americans people. |
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| gnm wrote: | roger roger... makes my head hurt to think what its like to conduct your daily buisness in one of those hotbeds! Talk about stress!
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It's a very cold winter down here!
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rostov
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 5:21 pm Post subject: Re: Peak oil starts to hurt americans people. |
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It's a very cold winter down here! |
Up here, thanks.
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thethief
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:27 pm Post subject: Re: Peak oil starts to hurt americans people. |
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| Oil needs to go high enough that poors stop driving. |
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Dreamtwister
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:28 pm Post subject: Re: Peak oil starts to hurt americans people. |
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| thethief wrote: | | Oil needs to go high enough that poors stop driving. |
Yes, and then they lose thier jobs. Then what?
Good thing we've got lots of wars going on. Nothing takes your mind off your empty belly like ducking small-arms fire...
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rogerhb
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:50 pm Post subject: Re: Peak oil starts to hurt americans people. |
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| Dreamtwister wrote: | | Yes, and then they lose thier[sic] jobs. Then what? |
Then we have a recession and depression to purge the system of inbalances. 
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Loki
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:58 pm Post subject: Re: Peak oil starts to hurt americans people. |
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I can't have a ton of sympathy for someone who commutes 200 miles a day. Yeah, his monthly gas bill is outrageous. Imagine that. Here's a thought--get a closer job or move closer to your job.
| rostov wrote: | | rogerhb wrote: |
It's a very cold winter down here! |
Up here, thanks. |
Well, it's been a very warm summer down here.
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frankthetank
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:20 pm Post subject: Re: Peak oil starts to hurt americans people. |
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| Wait until these poor bastards don't have jobs and they starting torching houses and cars because their bored... |
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clover
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| Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:32 am Post subject: Re: Peak oil starts to hurt americans people. |
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| frankthetank wrote: | | Wait until these poor bastards don't have jobs and they starting torching houses and cars because their bored... |
Why wait? I can move to Michigan right now.  |
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Sys1
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| Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:49 am Post subject: Re: Peak oil starts to hurt americans people. |
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"Wait until these poor bastards don't have jobs and they starting torching houses and cars because their bored..."
Here in France we already had a similar story last november... |
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Specop_007
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| Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:27 am Post subject: Re: Peak oil starts to hurt americans people. |
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| Sys1 wrote: | "Wait until these poor bastards don't have jobs and they starting torching houses and cars because their bored..."
Here in France we already had a similar story last november... |
Yeah but thats France, a bit of an exception. The French love internal riots, because that way no matter what somebody French gets to surrender.
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Fergus
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| Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:33 am Post subject: Re: Peak oil starts to hurt americans people. |
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| Specop_007 wrote: | | Sys1 wrote: | "Wait until these poor bastards don't have jobs and they starting torching houses and cars because their bored..."
Here in France we already had a similar story last november... |
Yeah but thats France, a bit of an exception. The French love internal riots, because that way no matter what somebody French gets to surrender. |
Now that was funny.  |
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PenultimateManStanding
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| Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:39 am Post subject: Re: Peak oil starts to hurt americans people. |
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This map really does look upside down and it isn't just habit and subjective impression. Clearly the world has it's broad rounded massive landmass at the top with these southern continents dangling below. No objective person could deny it!  |
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