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Tuike
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 Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:21 pm Post subject: Greenland's ice loss accelerating rapidly |
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| EurekAlert! wrote: | A new analysis of data from twin satellites has revealed that the melting of Greenland's ice sheet has increased dramatically in the past few years, with much of the loss occurring primarily along one shoreline potentially affecting weather in Western Europe.
The loss of ice has been occurring about five times faster from Greenland's southeastern region in the past two years than in the previous year and a half. The dramatic changes were documented during a University of Texas at Austin study of Greenland's mass between 2002 and 2005.
"This melting process may be approaching a point where it won't be centuries before Greenland's ice melts, but a much shorter time-frame," Tapley said, noting that it isn't possible to tell how much sooner this will be. |
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2006-08/uota-gil081006.php
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Zardoz
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:57 pm Post subject: Re: Greenland's ice loss accelerating rapidly |
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| Quote: | "The sobering thing to see is that the whole process of glacial melting is stepping up much more rapidly than before."
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Everything is "stepping up". We've reached the tipping points far sooner than anybody predicted, except for Lovelock, of course. He's known about this for a while.
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rwwff
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:03 pm Post subject: Re: Greenland's ice loss accelerating rapidly |
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| Zardoz wrote: | | Quote: | "The sobering thing to see is that the whole process of glacial melting is stepping up much more rapidly than before."
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Everything is "stepping up". We've reached the tipping points far sooner than anybody predicted, except for Lovelock, of course. He's known about this for a while. |
I've been saying, for at least a year, that we've crossed this climate tipping point.
Can't say that I'm exactly pleased to be right.
Now imagine a billion or so Chinese, Indians, and Indonesians getting their first cars, and stomping on the gas as we go whizzing down hill.
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Zardoz
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:05 pm Post subject: Re: Greenland's ice loss accelerating rapidly |
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| rwwff wrote: | | ...Now imagine a billion or so Chinese, Indians, and Indonesians getting their first cars, and stomping on the gas as we go whizzing down hill. |
That pile-up at the bottom of the hill is going to be awesome, isn't it?
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rwwff
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:11 pm Post subject: Re: Greenland's ice loss accelerating rapidly |
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Soccer mom in Houston wakes up one morning to take her kids to school in her new Lexus SUV... Driving down Shepherd accross the Buffalo Bayou bridge, the son looks out the window.
"Mom... why's the bayou almost touching the bridge?"
"Don't worry bubba, its probably just a water main broken somewhere."
Queu 1: Sinking feeling in the gut.
Queu 2: Brief moment of terror or panic, as appropriate.
pause briefly to allow fermentation to begin
Queu 3: McMuffin no longer in stomach... now on purse. hmmmmmm.
"Mom... why did you just throw up, are you ok."
"Bubba, we're going to grandpa's house today. Hold on."
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pedalling_faster
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: Greenland's ice loss accelerating rapidly |
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to use a Long Island Iced Tea metaphor -
the energy that was going into melting the ice cubes in the drink, is now raising the temperature of the drink, because the ice cubes are half melted.
my feeling from emailing with some of the climate change folks and asking them questions about their analyses is that there analyses are conservative. |
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JoeCoal
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:00 pm Post subject: Re: Greenland's ice loss accelerating rapidly |
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| Zardoz wrote: | | rwwff wrote: | | ...Now imagine a billion or so Chinese, Indians, and Indonesians getting their first cars, and stomping on the gas as we go whizzing down hill. |
That pile-up at the bottom of the hill is going to be awesome, isn't it? |
How about the pile-up at the top of the hill as they fight for the high ground? (This message coming from 850 feet above sea level...) 
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 8:13 pm Post subject: Re: Greenland's ice loss accelerating rapidly |
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Hypothetically speaking could the northern loop of the TA conveyor belt cease yet the rest of it continue and if so what would a frozen europe mean to a post PO world?  |
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savethehumans
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:10 pm Post subject: Re: Greenland's ice loss accelerating rapidly |
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Snowfall in Antarctica wasn't enough to compensate for the ice melt THERE this year, either.
Funny, how this ain't being widely reported.... |
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perdition79
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:20 pm Post subject: Re: Greenland's ice loss accelerating rapidly |
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| NEOPO wrote: | | Hypothetically speaking could the northern loop of the TA conveyor belt cease yet the rest of it continue and if so what would a frozen europe mean to a post PO world? |
No more topless sunbathing on the Riviera.
I get a kick out of glacial melting. From what I've watched on the Discovery channel, it's almost like an exponential effect. The streams of water runoff actually bore their way through the glacier, and melt the surrounding ice even faster.
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rwwff
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 9:41 pm Post subject: Re: Greenland's ice loss accelerating rapidly |
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| savethehumans wrote: | Snowfall in Antarctica wasn't enough to compensate for the ice melt THERE this year, either.
Funny, how this ain't being widely reported.... |
Unless it goes boom, on queu, its a non-story.
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Zardoz
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:56 pm Post subject: Re: Greenland's ice loss accelerating rapidly |
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| perdition79 wrote: | | ...almost like an exponential effect. The streams of water runoff actually bore their way through the glacier, and melt the surrounding ice even faster. |
A classic "feedback loop".
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| Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 1:13 am Post subject: Re: Greenland's ice loss accelerating rapidly |
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Exactly, this is a none story. I try to tell my parents about this but there is no "Ohhh" because they have not seen it in the mainstream media 
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| Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 1:52 am Post subject: Re: Greenland's ice loss accelerating rapidly |
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| And people call homo sapiens the most intelligent animal? How bout the dumbest. |
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Ayame
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| Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 5:37 am Post subject: Re: Greenland's ice loss accelerating rapidly |
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| perdition79 wrote: |
I get a kick out of glacial melting. From what I've watched on the Discovery channel, it's almost like an exponential effect. The streams of water runoff actually bore their way through the glacier, and melt the surrounding ice even faster. |
Also the rocks exposed by the melting glacier don't reflect heat so well as the ice does so they heat up and melt the glacier fringes some more. |
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