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rwwff
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 Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 2:12 pm Post subject: Re: There's always a catch... |
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| Wednesday wrote: | | There is a public dock and private (fee based) marina right in the middle of town.. |
If the marina's fees are even remotely tolerable for your budget, I'd definately go with that. Once you've been at a marina for a while as a good, troublefree customer, it builds up relationships that could be very useful if you go ahead with this project.
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Wednesday
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Location: Doomerville Houston Texas USA
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| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 2:24 pm Post subject: Re: There's always a catch... |
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I agree. No such thing as a bad connection in a small town.
I'm just trying to imagine my 6 foot 5 inch husband on a little scooter. I wonder what kind of small motorcycle would be easiest to find parts for.
UE, come help me build a small barge ferry for the scooters and moving in! |
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vision-master
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Location: Minneapolis, MN
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| Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:25 am Post subject: Re: There's always a catch... |
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| Quote: | Don35 wrote:
Legally an adjoining property would be required to give a right of way to the nearest road. You would, of course, have to foot the bill!
Check w/ a lawyer (sorry). I am not one!!!
not necessarily. Up here if a right of way doesn't exist now there is no legal way to force one to be added in the future.
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Correct, I know someone who bought a property "with an old road" going to it. Problem was, it went through someone elses property and they didn't want him to have access. They put up a gate to "land lock" him and there was nothing he could do but find another way. His "new" road ended up costing $50,000. |
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DarkDawg
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Location: Saratoga County, NY
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| Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 10:37 am Post subject: Re: There's always a catch... |
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Sounds like you need some sort of amphibious vehicle. You might even find something of the military surplus variety.
But I like the canoe idea better. |
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Wednesday
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Location: Doomerville Houston Texas USA
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| Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:16 pm Post subject: Re: There's always a catch... |
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| vision-master wrote: | | Problem was, it went through someone elses property and they didn't want him to have access. They put up a gate to "land lock" him and there was nothing he could do but find another way. |
The guy who locked him out was just being a crappy human being imo. Unfortunately, there are no laws against being an asshole. Surely they could have come to a reasonable agreement otherwise.
There seem to be only 4 parcels, if I had the money I'd buy them all, but that's not likely. UE did some investigating and found out that this land has been for sale for a while. No one seems prepared to deal with the access challenges. With a little luck and patience, maybe the price will go down further.
Whoever my neighbors might end up being, we will all be in the same boat (pun intended) so I would imagine it would take cooperation from all 4 families to pull it off. The cool thing about this town is, I can actually imagine that type of cooperation. It would never have worked back home and there's no guarantee that the biggest grump in town won't move in. Still, whoever it is, they will be someone not afraid of a challenge.
Wouldn't it be superb if it was just my family and UE's? Sort of our own privately owned PO-compound, can you imagine the compost pile! Im dreaming now. Whee! The deer will sacrifice themselves on our gardens and my husband can hunt game from the front porch, haha! I'll wear buckskins and learn to spear fish!
There are so many unique problems that this piece of land presents.
| DarkDawg wrote: | | But I like the canoe idea better. |
Me too.  Simple solutions need far less maintenance. Still would need a way to haul larger loads across the lake somehow. I would have to move my household initially and larger supplies such as lumber and plumbing supplies from time to time.
Going around isn't an option, lake is 90 miles long and connected by a river/creek system to other lakes.
Im trying to figure out a raft/barge/ferry/whatchamacallit and how it might work.
My husband even suggested that we could use the land even if we dont actually live on it. Use it as a market farm for growing crops as long as we can keep the infamous BC weed growers from squatting and moving in while we are off property. |
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tsakach
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Wednesday
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Location: Doomerville Houston Texas USA
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| Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:31 pm Post subject: Re: There's always a catch... |
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Ohhhh! Thank you!
Could tie this up right at the marina in town which is a few short blocks from my father in law's house where we could leave the truck overnight.
In town we can walk. For long out of town trips, we let my mother in law drive her gas pincher car.
I would like to limit our motor vehicles to one truck and one scooter. I dont want or need a second bike. He is too large for a scooter so we are talking about a real engine, fie on that.
A canoe and a pontoon boat would be the perfect companion to our vehicles.
I've even seen canoes with a flat butt for a small engine. It's daunting to get out on a large body of water in bad weather, there are days we would need a motor. |
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Wednesday
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| Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:52 pm Post subject: Re: There's always a catch... |
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What would be the best way to propel this beast?
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uNkNowN ElEmEnt
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| Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:01 pm Post subject: Re: There's always a catch... |
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I also found out that they have been talking for a few years about putting a road in near there to cut 2 hours off the trip to a near by city (aka: town by american standards).
When the peak gets here you can bet they will at least put in a low maintenance back road to get to and fro. it might even be close to the land... now all we need is the money eh? |
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Wednesday
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Location: Doomerville Houston Texas USA
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| Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:13 pm Post subject: Re: There's always a catch... |
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Let's get our houses paid off. I think I can sell my house for the price of one parcel, and maybe work a loan on a second parcel. I'm greedy, I want all the land I can get.
If my mother leaves her house to my sister, she can sell it for three times as much in USD (it's still worth more atm). She could afford a parcel then.
I don't know how much is available. Like you said, if I buy as much as I can, I can pick my neighbors.
I'm almost disappointed to hear about the road, I want a pontoon boat!  I will name her Cleopatra.
The price is likely to rise if they put in a road. |
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uNkNowN ElEmEnt
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| Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 10:13 pm Post subject: Re: There's always a catch... |
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well, they habe been talking about the road for a couple years now apparently. Who knows where it will go or how close it at all to any of the property.
I almost spit. I saw a functioning hay farm with 209 acres for 198,000.
mind you my father just bought a 40 acre farm in alta for 150,000, too bad they are having a drought! |
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hunter
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| Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:11 pm Post subject: Re: There's always a catch... |
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I don't know about BC but in Ontario a land locked property that doesn't have a driveway right of way can't get a building permit for building a residence...
before buying I'd look into making sure you can get a permit to build on the land. |
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uNkNowN ElEmEnt
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| Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 1:12 pm Post subject: Re: There's always a catch... |
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If you are outside of city limits, you can build what ever you want, where ever you want (mostly). Then building permits are there to protect you from crappy contractors via the inspection process.
My ex-father-in -law owned 180 acres that you could only get to by horse or plane, he turned it into a fully functioning cattle ranch. to my knowledge there still isn't a road. Of course, you can get away with a lot more if you just DON"T TELL ANYONE WHAT YOU ARE DOING. lol |
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Wednesday
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Location: Doomerville Houston Texas USA
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| Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 6:41 pm Post subject: Re: There's always a catch... |
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Im going to sail my pontoon barge down the lake like a pharaoh. 
P.S. I am packing for my trip into the belly of the beast a.k.a. Houston TX, so I will be afk for a couple of weeks. I might find some time to check mail and forums, or it might be a little while. I will be back to plan the conquering of Kootenay Lake as soon as I am safely back in the mountains.
Thank you all for your ideas and suggestions. |
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madison
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| Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 5:59 pm Post subject: Re: There's always a catch... |
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| Consider building a small cob cottage on the property while you decidother methods. Then you won't have very many building supplies to haul across the lake at all! A few pieces of glass, a couple of doors, some sinks, a roof membrane, a wood stove and a bathtub and you're set |
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