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Doly Expert


Joined: Dec 03, 2004 Posts: 4041
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:31 am Post subject: Re: ZERO Cost Prep's |
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Most of these zero cost preps seem to be mostly about hoarding. Hey, there's a lot of hoarders around (including me, I just can't throw away anything that could be possibly used later on). That doesn't necessarily mean that hoarders will be better off post PO.
Repeat with me: "Having stuff isn't the key to happiness". Stuff is useless if you don't know what to do with it. And I don't mean just intellectually knowing what one could possibly do, but actually trying it and knowing that your idea works. You think you can put a new handle on that tool? Try it NOW. Maybe it isn't as easy as you think.
I believe a big part of preparations isn't just getting things, but doing things. I like DYI, and I think it will prove useful post PO. I have a lot of tools I have needed for my DYI projects, I have used them and I have a fair idea of how good (or bad) they are. I have a fair idea about what it takes to do a lot of things.
And I can tell you, making new handles for tools is anything but simple! |
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WisJim Expert


Joined: Jan 03, 2005 Posts: 1212 Location: western Wisconsin
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:11 am Post subject: Re: ZERO Cost Prep's |
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| The time to learn new skills, whether it is bicycle or auto repair, home building or maintenance, solar installation, using/making/repairing tools (no matter what kind) is NOW, while it is easy/inexpensive to find someone to teach or guide you, or references are available at the library or on-line. I don't think you can ever know too much, or have too many skills (but sometimes I think I have too many tools). |
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RonMN Fission


Joined: Mar 18, 2005 Posts: 2691 Location: Minnesota
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 9:22 am Post subject: Re: ZERO Cost Prep's |
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I totally agree with the "do it NOW" line of thinking...but I have to say...I'm certain i can carve a handle easier than i can forge & press steel into a shovel-head  _________________ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes. |
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elocs Heavy Crude

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Joined: Mar 04, 2006 Posts: 269 Location: La Crosse, Wisconsin
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:12 am Post subject: Re: ZERO Cost Prep's |
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| Doly wrote: |
Repeat with me: "Having stuff isn't the key to happiness". |
"Stuff" is the bane of our society. In this country we seem to dedicate ourselves to the accumulation of more and more stuff in order to make ourselves happy. We have children and then both parents work in order to provide their kids with more and better stuff in order to make them happy and show they are loved.
The random accumulation of stuff is not often a good thing. Certainly there are many people whose homes and garages are cluttered with stuff because they cannot bear to depart with anything in case they might one day need it. My own problem with "stuff" is letting go of items that have sentimental value and hold memories for me. |
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Torion Tar Sands


Joined: May 09, 2005 Posts: 34
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:15 am Post subject: Re: ZERO Cost Prep's |
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All of these are good ideas, but some of us have a lot less storage space than others and I wonder where I'm going to keep a lot of the stuff I've been saving.
Everytime I look at anything plastic anymore, I wonder if it can be used again. but now I'm overflowing with those useful plastic bags I bring groceries home in!
I"d think that saving any kind of cloth/clothing/damaged clothing at all would be useful. _________________ There is no where to go but Earth!
Except for space ...... |
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ca2devri Coal


Joined: May 02, 2006 Posts: 17
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:23 am Post subject: Re: ZERO Cost Prep's |
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| Torion wrote: | | Everytime I look at anything plastic anymore, I wonder if it can be used again. but now I'm overflowing with those useful plastic bags I bring groceries home in! |
Here's an idea: Have you considered bringing them back to the grocery store and refilling them with groceries to take home again? Our local store credits us 1 cent per bag (Whoohoo!). |
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Pops Moderator


Joined: Apr 03, 2004 Posts: 7024 Location: My Grandkids' Farm
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 11:16 am Post subject: Re: ZERO Cost Prep's |
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<too many tools>
No Such Thing, Jim! With the possible exception of clean-up time :^)
I agree that the most valuable free preparation is ideas and skills. Change a light switch and your own oil, clean out a clogged sink trap and patch your own roof. None of which may be required in the future but the give you confidence in your own abilities and an understanding of the way things work – come to think of it, doing those things is cheaper than free because they save you money!
And when you feel a twinge of curiosity over whatever subject, google it up and spend a half hour reading about it instead of watching a re-run of friends. The secret to creativity is wide-ranging knowledge and the ability to combine 2 disparate concepts to make a novel solution. Gutenburg was a goldsmith, one story says he got the idea of the printing press while at a wine festival watching the grapes being pressed with a screw type press – combine that with his ability to work metal to make moveable type and voila!, the printing press was born!
The more skills and general knowledge one has, the greater their ability to come up with solutions to problems – like Monte says it is the MacGyver approach.
Of course owning lots of tools and attending wine festivals helps ;^) _________________ Make a plan and work it: |
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Wednesday Intermediate Crude


Joined: Dec 29, 2004 Posts: 711 Location: Doomerville Houston Texas USA
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Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:04 pm Post subject: Re: ZERO Cost Prep's |
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Walk your neighborhood.
Stop and talk to people.
Take the veggies they give you.
Reciprocate.
Celebrate their special occasions.
Keep your eyes open.
Carry a big stick. |
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RonMN Fission


Joined: Mar 18, 2005 Posts: 2691 Location: Minnesota
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 7:53 am Post subject: Re: ZERO Cost Prep's |
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How about saving pennies & nickels? I've been doing this for years (for no particular reason) & have built up a sizeable container of them...but for the life of me, I can't imagine what i would ever do with these little metal disks.
Sharpen into an arrow head maybe? Attach a trebble hook & turn into a fishing lure? Any ideas? _________________ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes. |
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TheTurtle Fission


Joined: May 14, 2005 Posts: 2123 Location: Along the banks of the muddy Mississippi
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:02 am Post subject: Re: ZERO Cost Prep's |
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| Doly wrote: |
Repeat with me: "Having stuff isn't the key to happiness". |
Agreed!
Acquiring skills and developing a flexible mental attitude is the key to happiness, IMO. Particularly when facing an uncertain future. _________________ “Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves.” (Ted Perry) |
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WildRose Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Jun 21, 2006 Posts: 1092
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:44 am Post subject: Re: ZERO Cost Prep's |
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Some mental/practical preparations I've been working on for a time when I may not be able to drive as much, or money may be a lot tighter:
- walk to the grocery store when you only need a few things
- simplify meal plans, try to spend less (a challenge when prices are going up)
- take the bus to work, just so I know it's not so bad
- invite friends over for dinner/cards/movies instead of going out
- clothes for kids - see if you can arrange a "clothing swap" with others in your kids' school or community
- enjoy the great outdoors
These are but a few suggestions. I'm sure others could come up with many more! |
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JustinFrankl Intermediate Crude

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Joined: Aug 22, 2005 Posts: 657
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 12:09 pm Post subject: Re: ZERO Cost Prep's |
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| Doly wrote: | | Repeat with me: "Having stuff isn't the key to happiness". Stuff is useless if you don't know what to do with it. |
I disagree. Having something increases your chance of survival vs. not having something. Even if you don't know how to use it. I would imagine it is a factor in the human desire for possessions, because those who desired things, regardless of what those things were, were more apt to survive. Having stuff may not be the key to happiness, but the more stuff you do have, the greater your survivability (all other things being equal).
But I do agree in that knowing how to use your stuff is better than not knowing.
Wasn't it a factor in the European's genocide of Native American culture that the natives didn't know how to use their land properly? That from the invader's perspective, the land was "useless" to the natives? _________________ "We have seen the enemy, and he is us." -- Walt Kelly |
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BrownDog Heavy Crude


Joined: May 24, 2005 Posts: 272 Location: N. TX
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:28 pm Post subject: Re: ZERO Cost Prep's |
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| JustinFrankl wrote: | | Wasn't it a factor in the European's genocide of Native American culture that the natives didn't know how to use their land properly? That from the invader's perspective, the land was "useless" to the natives? |
...and now that they've used it up, it is indeed, truly useless. |
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PraireRanger Tar Sands


Joined: Aug 21, 2006 Posts: 39
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Pretorian Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Apr 08, 2006 Posts: 1464 Location: Somewhere there
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 3:38 pm Post subject: Re: ZERO Cost Prep's |
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| Wednesday wrote: | Walk your neighborhood.
Stop and talk to people.
Take the veggies they give you.
Reciprocate.
Celebrate their special occasions.
Keep your eyes open.
Carry a big stick. |
Melt some lead.
Make a leaded head for your big stick.
Then talk to people again.
They will be nicer and you'll get more veggies.
Sell extra veggies.
Buy another stick and some lead.
Give it to someone you can trust.
Take 1/5th off all veggies he gets.
Sell extra veggies... |
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