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midnight-gamer Heavy Crude

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Joined: Sep 01, 2005 Posts: 274 Location: New Hampshire USA
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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 5:14 pm Post subject: Teen questioned for Bush threat |
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Forgive me if this has been posted. http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20061015/D8KP09580.html
What do you on Peak Oil think of this? Did the government over react in this instance? Words are not actions. The penalty for simply saying something seems like it could have been very high. What are your thoughts. |
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midnight-gamer Heavy Crude

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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 5:41 pm Post subject: Re: Teen questioned for Bush threat |
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| Quote: | SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) - Upset by the war in Iraq, Julia Wilson vented her frustrations with President Bush last spring on her Web page on MySpace.com. She posted a picture of the president, scrawled "Kill Bush" across the top and drew a dagger stabbing his outstretched hand. She later replaced her page on the social-networking site after learning in her eighth-grade history class that such threats are a federal offense.
It was too late.
Federal authorities had found the page and placed Wilson on their checklist. They finally reached her this week in her molecular biology class. |
This is a small section of the article. I posted the general idea of the content for people who do not want to click the link. |
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max_power29 Intermediate Crude


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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 5:53 pm Post subject: Re: Teen questioned for Bush threat |
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| We're all proper fooked. worship the beast(s) or be prosecuted to the fullest extant of the tyrrany |
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Rambo Heavy Crude


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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 5:55 pm Post subject: Re: Teen questioned for Bush threat |
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Tyler_JC Moderator

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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 7:21 pm Post subject: Re: Teen questioned for Bush threat |
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I'm allowed to say Bush is an @$$hole and that I disagree with parts of his foreign policy.
I can say that he has bad taste in ties, that his wife looks like worn out street hooker, that his daughters are rampant adulteresses.
I can even say that the United States would be better off if he had been assassinated several years ago.
But I can not and should not be allowed to make death threats.
We have to trade some liberty in exchange for security and I strongly believe that death threats cross the line.
I know that this teenager posed essentially no threat to the president but the secret service was right to investigate.
This is hardly an example of the government going too far in fighting terrorism (or whatever you wish to call it).
I am no apologist for the Bush Administration, but I don't wish him dead. I mean, come on, do we really want President "Secret-Undisclosed-Location" Cheney?  _________________ "www.peakoil.com is the Myspace of the Apocalypse." |
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midnight-gamer Heavy Crude

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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 7:46 pm Post subject: Re: Teen questioned for Bush threat |
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| Quote: | | I am no apologist for the Bush Administration, but I don't wish him dead. I mean, come on, do we really want President "Secret-Undisclosed-Location" Cheney? Smile |
I agree that death threats should be looked into. I also agree that death threats should not be allowed as a example of free expression. (sorry if I gave that impression at all) |
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Gideon Light Sweet Crude

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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: Teen questioned for Bush threat |
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MonteQuest is a certified asshole.
Last edited by Gideon on Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:53 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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MountainHiker Heavy Crude


Joined: Mar 24, 2005 Posts: 132 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:02 am Post subject: Re: Teen questioned for Bush threat |
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| Gideon wrote: | Tyler is correct, IMO.
With a HS girl, just call her on the phone, say, "this is the SS, call us back at this Federal Number.
When she calls back, tell her she can't threaten the President.
That's it. No big deal. She'll s____ her pants and that's the end of it. |
That's the way a sane government would do it. But the pending police state needs to overdo all reactions and impose the maximum amount of fear into the citizens so none will consider dissent.
Admittedly, death threats are beyond the absolute freedom of expression. But the post 911 fear mongering and over reaction to minor threats also go too far. _________________ "One thing more dangerous than getting between a grizzly sow and her cub is getting between a businessman and a dollar bill." -Ed Abbey
Isn't it strange that the same people who laugh at gypsy fortune tellers take economists seriously? |
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uNkNowN ElEmEnt Expert


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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:16 am Post subject: Re: Teen questioned for Bush threat |
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This is just typical in our Politically Correct world. The authorities overreact (hugely), makes massive threats, bully and intimidate a teenager who made a mistake and as long as she is properly cowed (and submissively cries) can go back to her little world.
There just is no such thing as a civilized conversation anymore |
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Rambo Heavy Crude


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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:25 am Post subject: Re: Teen questioned for Bush threat |
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No I would not want to kill the retard either I would send him to one of his own camps and he would never see the light of day again in his little dog pound.  |
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Kingcoal Expert


Joined: Sep 29, 2004 Posts: 2330 Location: Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:20 am Post subject: Re: Teen questioned for Bush threat |
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Making death threats is going to far, no matter who the target is. I have been the target of death threats from a former crazy girlfriend. I reported it to the police and she was investigated. In other words, all citizens of the US have the right to live in a terror free environment, free from death threats, ect. _________________ "That's the problem with mercy, kid... It just ain't professional" - Fast Eddie, The Color of Money |
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emailking Intermediate Crude


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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:26 pm Post subject: Re: Teen questioned for Bush threat |
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| I think there is a difference between serious or possibly serious death threats, and this which was clearly a joke. |
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rogerhb Master


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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:33 pm Post subject: Re: Teen questioned for Bush threat |
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| Tyler_JC wrote: | | But I can not and should not be allowed to make death threats. |
But you are allowed to issue death threats regarding foreign leaders?
BTW, isn't having capital punishment "a death threat"? _________________ "Complex problems have simple, easy to understand, wrong answers." - Henry Louis Mencken |
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Chocky Intermediate Crude


Joined: Oct 20, 2004 Posts: 520 Location: The Land of Do-As-You-Please
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:40 am Post subject: Re: Teen questioned for Bush threat |
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4859 posts, 4859 irritating rhetorical questions.
I thought the Secret Service's response was very measured and reasonable. They impressed the seriousness of the matter on her but deleted the file so as not to ruin her life. I thought everyone knew by now that making death threats against US presidents was a serious business.
For Fark' sake there's enough wrong with America that you should be able to come up with some legitimate criticisms instead of petty crap like this. |
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Lokutus Light Sweet Crude


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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:39 pm Post subject: Bush SS bullies 14 year old girl |
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The S.S. agents told Kirstie that they were investigating her daughter’s role in setting up a MySpace Web page. In particular, they were troubled because the Web page included the creation of art (pictured above) that the agents felt was extremely threatening to the life of the President of the United States.
The agents told Kirstie that since the art included the words, “Kill Bush,” and since it was accessible to anyone on the Internet, there was a very strong likelihood that someone—possibly a terrorist from a foreign country—might see the image and be inspired to act upon it. Thus, they reasoned, even if Julia only meant to be funny, the art put the President in grave danger. Many people are
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article15325.htm
Enemy combatant! _________________ Kiss Hank's Ass And He Will Give You a Million Dollars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDp7pkEcJVQ |
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