Like the illusion of Wall Street, with its vast and powerful investment banks, now shuttered, China too is an illusion perpetuated by the Globalists that gave us the 15,000 mile Caesar salad, poisoned cat food and lead based paint on babies' pacifiers. Like the illusion that money would come from thin air to always push housing prices higher, China has spent a generation pursuing its illusion. Pursuing an unattainable dream to be like the West, while 6000 years of its carefully shepherded top soil blows into the sea.
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:51 pm Post subject: Re: Government enroaching on basic rights -Options for citiz
Follow the principle from the movie "Cider House Rules." A great movie by Michael Cain. If you don't write the rules, ignore them, they don't apply to you.
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Since when did the state ever care a wit about anything but consolidation of power for the purposes of class preservation for the privleged at the expense and explotation of the weak?
The state, in its origins, and by its first intentions, is an anti-social organization (a class-instrument for the perpetuation of economic exploitation). It's never, ever been about a so called pact entered into for mutual protection between competing entities--never! Ever read Marx, Nock or Robertus-Jagestzow?
The power of the state has always been used as a blunt instrument that is perpetually at odds with the social morals of individuals. What we have now become in these United States resembles the thinking of the founders no more than does the thinking of Bill Buckley reflects that of the late Gus Hall.
For each and every so called good the state is given power to ENFORCE, there is and equal and much more pernicious avenue paved for criminal activity (in the name of the state) whereby an individual's right to be left alone are reduced to a pulp by the very state supposedly erected as a bullwark to ensure individual liberty's preservation in the first place.
Like it or not, the state is the hammer and we are the nails, which is exactly as was intended from the beginning, government school propaganda notwithstanding.
Speaking of govt schools, where do you think 90%+ of the led by the nose masses matricualted? Where do most of the elite's children matriculate? Get it yet?
Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:41 pm Post subject: Re: Government enroaching on basic rights -Options for citiz
mercurygirl wrote:
Right on. If you're right (as I think too), voting is useless. So what do we do?
I feel perfectly comfortable in not voting. I see no harm in abstaining from a system that only seeks to separate others from their money and freedom through the shibboleth of democracy. The state here and everywhere has always been the only real enemy to the basic right of individual self determination.
Of course, the state will not ever vanish from our midst, and I'm not certain if it all of a sudden did vanish that any good would come of it. On the other hand, were the now muddled masses to experience ephipany and see her for what she really is, then perhaps a vanquishing to the dustbin of failed ideas might prove a great advancement for civilization. Yet I can function quite happily as a hearty anarchist with nary an evangelical impulse to force my way on the unreceptive dolts that are the majority report here and about. I'm not pining to replace one hammer with another.
I'll leave you with this mull over:
"If a regime of complete economic freedom be established, social and political freedom will follow automatically; and until it is established neither social nor political freedom can exist. Here one comes in sight of the reason why the State will never tolerate the establishment of economic freedom. In a spirit of sheer conscious fraud, the State will at any time offer its people 'four freedoms,' or six, or any number; but it will never let them have economic freedom. If it did, it would be signing its own death-warrant, for as Lenin pointed out, 'it is nonsense to make any pretence of reconciling the State and liberty.' Our economic system being what it is, and the State being what it is, all the mass verbiage about 'the free peoples' and 'the free democracies' is merely so much obscene buffoonery"
AJ Nock, circa 1935
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 5:30 am Post subject: Re: Government enroaching on basic rights -Options for citiz
I agree that armed resistance is the last possible resort. The last time my ancestors tried that route, Sherman showed up in Atlanta with a match. The tank would literally have to be rolling through my house before I could find it in my heart to shoot an American soldier. Even then, I would be conflicted. It is not violence that will win the day but rather the threat of violence that serves to keep the government in check. ATF has not shot up many churches recently.
The real threat to our freedom is some faceless bureaucrat sitting in a state or federal building working under the paradigm of a benevolent dictatorship. Jefferson found the best way to trim the power of an intrusive government. He reduced its funding. The guys who would curtail your freedoms are paid by your tax dollars. Cut taxes and you cut federal sprawl.
If you refuse to vote and retreat from the political scene, you surrender the society to the status quo. The puppet masters have used wedge issues to drive us apart and set us at each other’s throats. To my mind, we need a centrist party that is more libertarian in nature. That will not happen if you young folks abandon the system. Our only hope is that you guys will wrest power from the party bosses of both sides of the aisle. You can create that party.
To steal a quote from Time Magazine, every revolution begins with the power of an idea; it ends when the only idea is power. The two parties predate the civil war. It is time for a new party. A ballot is better than a bomb any day. Mobilize your own candidates and vote.
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 5:40 am Post subject: Re: Government enroaching on basic rights -Options for citiz
Cloud9 wrote:
The real threat to our freedom is some faceless bureaucrat sitting in a state or federal building working under the paradigm of a benevolent dictatorship. Jefferson found the best way to trim the power of an intrusive government. He reduced its funding. The guys who would curtail your freedoms are paid by your tax dollars. Cut taxes and you cut federal sprawl.
I agree, Bleed the beast! That's one thing I like that the Neocons are doing, cutting taxes while increasing spending. Now only if the world would stop lending them money. I can not wait until the world stops lending the government money. it will be like the best christmas ever.
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 12:36 pm Post subject: Re: Government enroaching on basic rights -Options for citiz
Agree with some posters here. The best way of reducing the powers of the government is by reducing the taxes that are paid to them. Also, additional parties are needed. The way to do that is to implement proportional elections instead of winner-take-all elections in order to loosen the vice on the the body politic that the corporate lobbyists hold through having the Republicrats beholden to them. Armed resistance is generally too destructive. Yes, also, the Union is the industrial machine. However, we are moving past the era of national domination to one of international corporate domination.
"This has the potential to be the most significant ruling ever on the Second Amendment," said Paul Helmke, president of Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence. He said the case also could be significant in the political debate leading up to next year's elections.
All of the Founding Fathers carried pistols in the capital. This ought to be good.
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:56 am Post subject: Re: Bolshevik Traitors Prepare To Overturn Second Amendment
You mean Nazi traitors :
Quote:
"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let's not have any native militia or native police. German troops alone will bear the sole responsibility for the maintenance of law and order throughout the occupied Russian territories, and a system of military strong-points must be evolved to cover the entire occupied country." - Adolf Hitler
I have more quotes from these guys :
Quote:
Not every item of news should be published. Rather must those who control news policies endeavor to make every item of news serve a certain purpose. - Goebbels
Quote:
The great masses of the people ... will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one. - Hitler
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Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country. - Hermann Goering
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 3:47 am Post subject: Re: Bolshevik Traitors Prepare To Overturn Second Amendment
paimei01 wrote:
You mean Nazi traitors :
Quote:
"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let's not have any native militia or native police. German troops alone will bear the sole responsibility for the maintenance of law and order throughout the occupied Russian territories, and a system of military strong-points must be evolved to cover the entire occupied country." - Adolf Hitler
I have more quotes from these guys :
Quote:
Not every item of news should be published. Rather must those who control news policies endeavor to make every item of news serve a certain purpose. - Goebbels
Quote:
The great masses of the people ... will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one. - Hitler
Quote:
Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country. - Hermann Goering
Good quotes yet we do know that the Nazi's were a mere fabrication do we not?
Exhibit a,b and c:
a: Swastika - ancient symbol for good fortune.
b: Aryan - Term for ancient peoples of Iran.
c: Nazi - term derived from ashkenazi a medieval hebrew name for Germany. Special thanks to Raphael for his research into the word "nazi". National Socialist my ass!
And who "built" this machine?
Yes, the U.S., Britian and Russia.
And what did the euro map look like once the "boogey man" was disposed of?
exhibit d:
Hmmm yes... Divide and conquer and divided we have fallen...
So perhaps the thread title is not that far from reality even if Offshore is an agent.
If one wishes to understand the term "Bolshevik" one must go beyond Lenin to Marx.
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Karl Heinrich Marx was born the third of seven children of a Jewish family in Trier, in the Kingdom of Prussia's Province of the Lower Rhine. His father Heinrich (1777-1838), who had descended from a long line of rabbis, converted to Christianity, despite his many deistic tendencies and his admiration of such Enlightenment figures as Voltaire and Rousseau. Marx's father was actually born Herschel Mordechai, but when the Prussian authorities would not allow him to continue practicing law as a Jew, he joined the official denomination of the Prussian state, Lutheranism, which accorded him advantages, as one of a small minority of Lutherans in a predominantly Roman Catholic region.
One could move on to Hegel and his dialectic yet I do not believe one must do so as the "nest paratisism" and "brood paratisism" is rather evident at this point.
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"There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews."
Winston Churchill.
Nazi's you say? Bolshevik's you say? Elite Jewry I say such as the Zionists behind today's Neocon controlled America.
Anti semitic? You mean that word invented to set aside racism against jews apart from all other racism? These tricks may work well upon the sheeple yet they no longer have an effect upon the learned seekers of truth.
Quote:
Oh what a tangled web we weave, When first we practice to deceive
Sir Walter Scott _________________ It is easier to enslave a people that wish to remain free then it is to free a people who wish to remain enslaved.
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:20 am Post subject: Re: Bolshevik Traitors Prepare To Overturn Second Amendment
Guns are the "religion" of Americans.
Good luck with all that.
Nice post NEOPO. _________________ "There must be a bogeyman; there always is, and it cannot be something as esoteric as "resource depletion." You can't go to war with that." Emersonbiggins
"... hope is a rotten-thighed whore" Niko Kazantzakis
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:11 am Post subject: Re: Bolshevik Traitors Prepare To Overturn Second Amendment
roccman wrote:
Guns are the "religion" of Americans.
Good luck with all that.
Nice post NEOPO.
Ah thank you.
(takes a bow and then blinks out of existence) _________________ It is easier to enslave a people that wish to remain free then it is to free a people who wish to remain enslaved.
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 10:06 am Post subject: Re: Bolshevik Traitors Prepare To Overturn Second Amendment
Plantagenet wrote:
paimei01 wrote:
You mean Nazi traitors
Communist traitors, Nazi traitors. Whats the difference? Both kinds of totalitarians have horrible records of mass murder.
You mean ALL kinds of totalitarians right? _________________ It is easier to enslave a people that wish to remain free then it is to free a people who wish to remain enslaved.
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:57 pm Post subject: Re: Bolshevik Traitors Prepare To Overturn Second Amendment
When young I believed that all handguns and semi-automatic rifles should be banned , confiscated , shredded . Then I became aware ,the reason that people should own guns and lots of 'em isn't so murdering is easy , but so an out of control government can't murder you. I think too that regions where gun ownership is high you run into more politeness , nervous smiles at strangers , lots of Hi ,how ya doin ?, better road manners , etc. _________________ It's the height of rudeness for the stretch polyester pants crowd to foist their tard version of Christ on talmudic scholars. But they don't get this, because they are, after all, extremely thick.----Threadbare
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