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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 2:29 pm    Post subject: Use of CR-39 Detector Heats Up "Cold Fusion" Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Extraordinary Evidence - "Cold Fusion"

The field of low energy nuclear reactions, historically known as cold fusion, has never had simple physical evidence of the claimed nuclear processes to physically place in the hands of doubters.

Until now.

Scientists at the U.S. Navy’s San Diego SPAWAR Systems Center have produced something unique in the 17-year history of the scientific drama historically known as cold fusion: simple, portable, highly repeatable, unambiguous, and permanent physical evidence of nuclear events using detectors that have a long track record of reliability and acceptance among nuclear physicists.

Using a unique experimental method called co-deposition, combined with the application of external electric and magnetic fields, and recording the results with standard nuclear-industry detectors, researchers have produced what may be the most convincing evidence yet in the pursuit of proof of low energy nuclear reactions.

New Energy Times, issue #19
"Extraordinary Evidence"
http://newenergytimes.com/news/2006/NET19.htm#ee
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 2:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Use of CR-39 Detector Heats Up "Cold Fusion" Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

The video presentation related to this "discovery" has been referenced in another thread.

http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic25181.html

When someone is trying to raise money by pretending he is not trying to raise money, I sort of get my suspicions up.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 2:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Use of CR-39 Detector Heats Up "Cold Fusion" Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Dr. Bussard of EMC2 is promoting Electrostatic confinement , a type of Farnsworth Fusor not Low Energy Nuke Reactions (LENR )
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 4:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Use of CR-39 Detector Heats Up "Cold Fusion" Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

erich wrote:
Dr. Bussard of EMC2 is promoting Electrostatic confinement , a type of Farnsworth Fusor not Low Energy Nuke Reactions (LENR )


Oi Pablo....

is this a buzzard or chicken....you posted..now explain for us ornery humans in here....blimmin nong!

(no more committees, extensive white papers, or other profound gobshite....gimme the juice pal.)
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 5:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Use of CR-39 Detector Heats Up "Cold Fusion" Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Most people know that this is Dr. Robert Bussard, a notable physicist:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bussard

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M.R.F.

BTW his "Google" speech has been recently posted on peakoil.com:

http://peakoil.com/fortopic25181.html

This is hot fusion, not cold fusion.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 7:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Use of CR-39 Detector Heats Up "Cold Fusion" Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

mrflora wrote:
Most people know that this is Dr. Robert Bussard, a notable physicist:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bussard

Regards,
M.R.F.

BTW his "Google" speech has been recently posted on peakoil.com:

http://peakoil.com/fortopic25181.html

This is hot fusion, not cold fusion.


"Most people"...nope...haven't had the pleasure...seein as I don't live in the UUUUSSSSofAAAAAA.

Whats this crap mean mate...have we got it or not?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 9:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Use of CR-39 Detector Heats Up "Cold Fusion" Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

mrflora wrote:
Most people know that this is Dr. Robert Bussard, a notable physicist:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bussard



As popularized by Larry Niven in his novels and stories ("Bussard ramjets"). God those were great. Too bad they'll always remain fiction.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:31 am    Post subject: Re: Use of CR-39 Detector Heats Up "Cold Fusion" Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Heineken wrote:
mrflora wrote:
Most people know that this is Dr. Robert Bussard, a notable physicist:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bussard



As popularized by Larry Niven in his novels and stories ("Bussard ramjets"). God those were great. Too bad they'll always remain fiction.

Yep. Footfall. Great yarn.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 1:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Use of CR-39 Detector Heats Up "Cold Fusion" Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

mrflora wrote:
Most people know that this is Dr. Robert Bussard, a notable physicist:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bussard

Regards,
M.R.F.

BTW his "Google" speech has been recently posted on peakoil.com:

http://peakoil.com/fortopic25181.html

This is hot fusion, not cold fusion.


I find both of these fusion tidbits very interesting.

I read the 'extraordinary evidence' link with interest. The entire 'cold fusion' thing has been thoroughly stigmatized, and at this point these people are struggling for funding. However the evidence for limited fusion reactions appears compelling. These plastic bits are used by the nuke industry as a sort of film to record the events lefts behind by radiation. Neutrons are very hard to detect in situations like this but these plastic detectors have done the job. It's pretty basic chemistry, they're precipitating palladium and deuterium out of solution (electrolysis), and as this occurs (perhaps) some limited and low temperature nuclear reactions are taking place. What makes this interesting is the 'standard model' in physics claims low temperature fusion should not be possible. If it's proven it will be an eye opener for many physicists.

The second link, to the video of Dr. Brussard (sp?) was also interesting. First off I thought Dr. Brussard was quite sharp, especially considering his age. He did cover a lot of ground quickly, and for people without a science background I think he would have been hard to follow. His is an interesting idea for a very small reactor that creates no neutron radiation. He's sticking with known and proven physics, and apparently has had success attaining a limited amount of fusion.

Given the magnitude of the energy crunch looming before us both of these approaches deserve more research, IMO. However there's no priority to do so, and the US appears intent on squandering the last of its resources on the Iraq 'War'. I do hope some other country (China?) decides to research some of these avenues.

"Too little, too late"
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:16 am    Post subject: Re: Use of CR-39 Detector Heats Up "Cold Fusion" Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Interesting recent letter by Dr. Robert Bussard, who is a noted physicist and engineer. Oil company conspiracies and all. The idea of progress in basic physics, especially involving energy, being intentionally restricted sounds more and more plausible to me every day. All the massive amounts of money that go into physics go into reconfirming the standard model which was completed in the early 70s and into string theory which has no testable predictions and hence no possible technological impact. It also goes into magnetic confinement fusion which doesn't seem to work after decades of engineering and Mr. Bussard, who knows a thing or two about fusion, seems to think will never work and was constructed intentionally as a big money pit.

http://www.randi.org/forumlive/showpost.php?s=e665007961e36e93001813d66ec9a4ea&p=1722023&postcount=27
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Use of CR-39 Detector Heats Up "Cold Fusion" Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

If I give you the 200 million dollars, will you offically call it "grabby fusion?" Make it worth my while, you know.

Top eleven reasons to NOT build the fusion reactor:


11. We havn't had fusion for so long, it would just feel wrong to suddenly have it.

10. you know, 200 million could built the right wing of a stealth bomber! Why should we invest that much into something that just puts out energy when we can build a perfectly good bomber?

9. Sure, spend money on electricty plants when there are starving people in afrikans.

8. I didn't hear the word "nanotech" in that appeal.

7. Hydrogen is the new economy.

6. No ones ever built one before, and we may not get an environmental impact statement before 2020.

5. Terrorists could hijack it and crash it into a building.

4. If GOOGLE wouldn't do it, microsoft won't either.

3. It isn't in 1080i.

2. In SPIDERMAN, fusion went out of control and ruined the building.

1. Actually we dont need fusion, we have ethanol.
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