Like the illusion of Wall Street, with its vast and powerful investment banks, now shuttered, China too is an illusion perpetuated by the Globalists that gave us the 15,000 mile Caesar salad, poisoned cat food and lead based paint on babies' pacifiers. Like the illusion that money would come from thin air to always push housing prices higher, China has spent a generation pursuing its illusion. Pursuing an unattainable dream to be like the West, while 6000 years of its carefully shepherded top soil blows into the sea.
Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 11:29 pm Post subject: EROEI
Anybody have any idea of the Energy Retrun on Energy Invested for Gas to Liquids conversion process?
I read that currently, Natural gas has an EROEI betwen 5-10.
Although oil had a very high (100) ratio years ago, now it also is about 10.
So what about the conversion process?
Any one seen any data?
No, but the EROEI of converting tar sands and oil shale to useable product is pathetic. I'd imagine gas-to-oil wouldn't be much better...or they'd be catching all the methane coming out of the thawing Arctic ground and be converting away!
NOTHING replaces oil & gas--and their EROEIs are now in the frightening ratio!
Gas to liquids conversion is a bit better than tar sands. The efficiency is around 60 - 70% for gas to diesel. If the EROEI of gas drilling is around 5 to 1, then EROEI of gas drilling to diesel should be about 3.5 to 1, significantly better than tar sands and oil shale.
Gas to liquids conversion is a bit better than tar sands. The efficiency is around 60 - 70% for gas to diesel. If the EROEI of gas drilling is around 5 to 1, then EROEI of gas drilling to diesel should be about 3.5 to 1, significantly better than tar sands and oil shale.
I haven't heard about "gas to diesel". Wouldn't it be more efficient to convert methane to lighter hydrocarbons in the gasoline range (pentane - octane)?
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