Like the illusion of Wall Street, with its vast and powerful investment banks, now shuttered, China too is an illusion perpetuated by the Globalists that gave us the 15,000 mile Caesar salad, poisoned cat food and lead based paint on babies' pacifiers. Like the illusion that money would come from thin air to always push housing prices higher, China has spent a generation pursuing its illusion. Pursuing an unattainable dream to be like the West, while 6000 years of its carefully shepherded top soil blows into the sea.
Joined: Dec 02, 2005 Posts: 6755 Location: Oil-addicted Southern Californucopia
Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 1:28 pm Post subject: Re: If I was asked to go to war I would...
dhfenton wrote:
...I would fight to make sure my children didn't get caught up in this mess.
I'm very concerned about my 16-year-old son. He'll be what they're looking for. I don't know what we'll do if a draft is reinstated. _________________ "Thank you for attending the oil age. We're going to scrape what we can out of these tar pits in Alberta and then shut down the machines and turn out the lights. Goodnight." - seldom_seen
Joined: May 08, 2006 Posts: 62 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada
Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:17 pm Post subject: Re: If I was asked to go to war I would...
As a Canadian, it's in my breeding to think no.
I am curious though why some think you might have to defend yourselves (Americans). To occupy a country, you must eventually physically be there. While by fluke they might have some magic air campaign that might work temporarily against you, but they can not occupy your land. You have too many roads. And you have too many personal weapons.
The roads are the main thing. Lets say they drop 1 million solders and 100K armored vehicles in the middle of Kansas. How would they ever get to all points covering enough road way to eventually limit travel of you, the occupied. It just can't happen.
Compare your countries road system to anyone else's. You can't.
Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:31 pm Post subject: Re: If I was asked to go to war I would...
dogf wrote:
I am curious though why some think you might have to defend yourselves (Americans).
You can start with the fact that my homeland has already been under occupation for several hundred years by an illegitimate occupation government from a place called "Washington, DC". Having to fight to drive out would be occupiers seems to me the surest thing in the world. _________________ "So while you sit and whistle Dixie with your money and your power.
I can hear the flowers a-growin in the rubble of the towers.
I hear leaders quit their lying
I hear babies quit their crying.
I hear soldiers quit their dying, one and all." - OCMS
Joined: Sep 02, 2005 Posts: 3047 Location: In a Nigerian compound surrounded by mighty dignataries
Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:32 pm Post subject: Re: If I was asked to go to war I would...
At 36 I'm out of the woods. "If" the National Guard began conscription or brought back the draft I doubt I'd go to the front line. I scored a 94 on my ASVABs 20 years ago so with my luck, I'd probably get stuck at a desk at a Air Force Base. _________________ Hair in my eyes like a highland steer, spring in my step like a white tailed deer. Hitch in my hip like an old sheep dog, puff up my chest like a big bull frog.-Corb Lund
Joined: Mar 23, 2005 Posts: 183 Location: Norwood, NY
Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:37 pm Post subject: Re: If I was asked to go to war I would...
dogf wrote:
As a Canadian, it's in my breeding to think no.
I am curious though why some think you might have to defend yourselves (Americans). To occupy a country, you must eventually physically be there.
Very good point. The U.S. military is designed to conduct offensive operations. As we've clearly seen time and again in the last century, occupations usually end in disater for the occupier. I guess the reasoning is that if you have an overwhelming military force, nobody will even consider a frontal attack on your territory. But, as we're finding out, individuals can inflict serious damage, and the military can do very, very little about it.
Joined: Sep 02, 2005 Posts: 3047 Location: In a Nigerian compound surrounded by mighty dignataries
Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:38 pm Post subject: Re: If I was asked to go to war I would...
smallpoxgirl wrote:
dogf wrote:
I am curious though why some think you might have to defend yourselves (Americans).
You can start with the fact that my homeland has already been under occupation for several hundred years by an illegitimate occupation government from a place called "Washington, DC". Having to fight to drive out would be occupiers seems to me the surest thing in the world.
What tribe and what % are you?
Just curious.. _________________ Hair in my eyes like a highland steer, spring in my step like a white tailed deer. Hitch in my hip like an old sheep dog, puff up my chest like a big bull frog.-Corb Lund
Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:45 pm Post subject: Re: If I was asked to go to war I would...
PrairieMule wrote:
What tribe and what % are you?
Just curious..
I was born on the Chickasaw nation. Currently I reside on the Kootenai nation. Ethnically, I am about a quarter Irish and the rest assorted European mutt. _________________ "So while you sit and whistle Dixie with your money and your power.
I can hear the flowers a-growin in the rubble of the towers.
I hear leaders quit their lying
I hear babies quit their crying.
I hear soldiers quit their dying, one and all." - OCMS
Joined: May 08, 2006 Posts: 62 Location: Barrie, Ontario, Canada
Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:45 pm Post subject: Re: If I was asked to go to war I would...
dhfenton wrote:
dogf wrote:
As a Canadian, it's in my breeding to think no.
I am curious though why some think you might have to defend yourselves (Americans). To occupy a country, you must eventually physically be there.
Very good point. The U.S. military is designed to conduct offensive operations. As we've clearly seen time and again in the last century, occupations usually end in disater for the occupier. I guess the reasoning is that if you have an overwhelming military force, nobody will even consider a frontal attack on your territory. But, as we're finding out, individuals can inflict serious damage, and the military can do very, very little about it.
So compare what is happening to your troops dealing with "insurgents". Then compare that to occupying a country who watches the outdoor channel. It's really almost funny what would happen. I mean any other countries deer crossing signs still look new. Yours are all full of holes. Hehhehe
Joined: Jan 06, 2006 Posts: 508 Location: Pacific Northwest
Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:49 pm Post subject: Re: If I was asked to go to war I would...
There is no way I would go fight for anything I did not believe in...and at least one rule that shows no signs of being let go would stand in my way anyway. That said, I have no issue whatsoever defending myself or my family. If the US was being invaded I would hold arms in its defense, even if only serving a militia. We are invading someone else though, and I do not like that.
I do not own an SUV, nor do I like the culture associated with them. I will not fight for it, unless I can be offered sufficient compensation...after all, I do have a price. That is important to think about, at some price I have a feeling anyone who was anti war could be convinced to go. Hunger is a strong motivator, if service guarantees sustenance many people would likely enlist. _________________ We stand here, as the light of other days surrounds us.
"Hail the Dead"
Joined: Sep 02, 2005 Posts: 3047 Location: In a Nigerian compound surrounded by mighty dignataries
Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 2:50 pm Post subject: Re: If I was asked to go to war I would...
smallpoxgirl wrote:
PrairieMule wrote:
What tribe and what % are you?
Just curious..
I was born on the Chickasaw nation. Currently I reside on the Kootenai nation. Ethnically, I am about a quarter Irish and the rest assorted European mutt.
My father in law is the same, half Cherokee and a mix of german/irish.
Do you provide your medical services to the nation? _________________ Hair in my eyes like a highland steer, spring in my step like a white tailed deer. Hitch in my hip like an old sheep dog, puff up my chest like a big bull frog.-Corb Lund
Joined: Oct 18, 2004 Posts: 2124 Location: kiwibush
Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:23 pm Post subject: Re: If I was asked to go to war I would...
smallpoxgirl wrote:
dogf wrote:
I am curious though why some think you might have to defend yourselves (Americans).
You can start with the fact that my homeland has already been under occupation for several hundred years by an illegitimate occupation government from a place called "Washington, DC". Having to fight to drive out would be occupiers seems to me the surest thing in the world.
So what are you, indigenous redskin or.....mebbe southern redneck yearning for the return of slavery and women the way they used ta be.....I like mine seen but not heard boy....yeeeeehaaaaaa!!!!!! _________________ Bugger me, I hear oil's runnin out mate!
Joined: Oct 18, 2004 Posts: 2124 Location: kiwibush
Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:27 pm Post subject: Re: If I was asked to go to war I would...
Poxy, havin indigenous blood today stands for bugger all if you're spouting this nationalist gobshite...we've loadsa indigens in kiwiland who would love to wield the anti-asian redneck whip given half a chance and a few Michael Jackson bleachings.
Read up on your Karl Marx and wake up to the facts of economic power, control and the dynamics of capitalism. _________________ Bugger me, I hear oil's runnin out mate!
Joined: Feb 23, 2005 Posts: 512 Location: Winnipeg
Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:43 pm Post subject: Re: If I was asked to go to war I would...
well If I was "asked" to go to war, I'd say no, very politely, and leave.
I was offered, for some unknown reason, an officer's commission, I'd think about it.
If the selective service knocked on my door and informed me I was drafted I would go, hope for the best, and learn with all my resources to be the best warrior possible, if only to help me survive.
I dont know why you Americans are so worried though - implementing the draft is possibly the quickest way to political suicide, for a good long time. things would really have to go sideways, ie a complete rout of American forces in Iraq, complete with sunk aircraft carriers, not entirely impossible, but improbable for the short to mid term.
Given such a reduction of American power then a draft and a bloody offensive may become probable.
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