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emersonbiggins Moderator


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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:52 pm Post subject: Re: GAO Report on the Peak and Decline of Oil Production |
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Mea culpa. I didn't spot any mention of commercial airlines or trucking, either. Extremely myopic.
If keeping the cars running at the expense of the economy is of the utmost importance to the feds, then we are doomed. _________________ “I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death.” George Carlin
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chuck6877 Heavy Crude


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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:59 pm Post subject: Re: GAO Report on the Peak and Decline of Oil Production |
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CNBC talked about the GAO study today.
Matthew Simmons was interviewed again on this topic.
Here is the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fo3sxhBylw&eurl
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DantesPeak Expert


Joined: Oct 23, 2004 Posts: 5200 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:09 pm Post subject: Re: GAO Report on the Peak and Decline of Oil Production |
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| chuck6877 wrote: | CNBC talked about the GAO study today.
Matthew Simmons was interviewed again on this topic.
Here is the link:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=233654042&play=1
For those that watch it: Does it cut out for you after about 4 minutes like it does for me? I can't watch the rest of the interview.
Chuck |
Pickens and Simmons both on the same day?
Seems that PO awareness is gaining some momentum.
I did have a similar problem. I suggest closing all other internet windows when watching. _________________ It's already over, now it's just a matter of adjusting. |
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MarkL Moderator


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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:14 pm Post subject: Re: GAO Report on the Peak and Decline of Oil Production |
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khebab Moderator

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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:24 pm Post subject: Re: GAO Report on the Peak and Decline of Oil Production |
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| MarkL wrote: | Someone put the CNBC video on youtube:
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I did
Surprising how the video is better quality and uninterrupted once on YouTube! _________________ ______________________________________
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chuck6877 Heavy Crude


Joined: May 16, 2005 Posts: 490
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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:38 pm Post subject: Re: GAO Report on the Peak and Decline of Oil Production |
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Khebab,
Thanks. It was bugging me that every time it made it to around 4:37 it would stop!
The obsessive compulsive in me made me try to watch it about 5 times to see if it would ever show me the last 3 minutes
Thanks again,
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max_power29 Intermediate Crude


Joined: Mar 23, 2005 Posts: 944 Location: Orygun
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:33 am Post subject: Re: GAO Report on the Peak and Decline of Oil Production |
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I do not want any government to do anything about peak oil. they tend to make problems worse and will ruin everyone's individual preps. _________________ Iran: 'Murrica's FINAL frontier |
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Barbara Light Sweet Crude

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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:55 am Post subject: Re: GAO Report on the Peak and Decline of Oil Production |
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Many other MSM are discussing GAO: BW, WSJ etc.
Main quote?
"Peak oil in 2040".
There's no hope.  _________________ **no english mothertongue**
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Objects in the rear view mirror
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Bas Moderator


Joined: Mar 26, 2005 Posts: 3634 Location: over here
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:02 am Post subject: Re: GAO Report on the Peak and Decline of Oil Production |
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| MarkL wrote: | Someone put the CNBC video on youtube:
Video
Mark |
It's funny how they say Peak Oil can occur anytime between now and 2040 while in fact the world peaked last year... _________________ "The best thing about the future is that it comes only one day at a time."
- Abraham Lincoln |
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MD Community Manager

Joined: May 02, 2005 Posts: 3144 Location: One more question...
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 10:41 am Post subject: Re: GAO Report on the Peak and Decline of Oil Production |
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The point is exactly that the debate has been legitimized.
Quick picking at the content; it's irrelevant, for now.
Government is about to step in. It will get ugly. _________________ "Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events."
Robert A. Heinlein
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JPL Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Mar 18, 2006 Posts: 1084 Location: Everywhere
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Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:57 pm Post subject: Re: GAO Report on the Peak and Decline of Oil Production |
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| MD wrote: |
Government is about to step in. It will get ugly. |
What, more that it did in the last century you mean? That's not possible.
Without oil, these pictures will start to rest where they belong - in the history books.
JPL _________________ The three most beautiful things in the world -
a full-rigged ship, a woman with child and a full moon.
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Twilight Expert


Joined: Mar 02, 2007 Posts: 2759 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 4:50 pm Post subject: Re: GAO Report on the Peak and Decline of Oil Production |
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Pathetic. They're boasting about asking questions, yet reproduce claims such as the IEA's projection without analysis. This is what these people think. This is what these other people think. These people are doing that. No attempt to dig into the data. Sure it's crap, but it's not that crap. Peak in 2040 would need the past to have looked different. Peak in 2020 needs the past to have looked different. They don't yet realise that stuff can be determined already, probably got blinded by the sort of near-term detail we argue about and reduced it to "uncertainty". Just because a bunch of pundits can't agree on the detail of the next 10 years doesn't mean events over multiples of 10 years are subject to the same uncertainty.
I don't know. With that level of getting their act together, maybe we're better off with governments not addressing the problem? _________________ "The American people are watching the numbers climb higher and higher at the pump and they're waiting to see what the Congress will do." - George W Bush |
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Ludi Expert


Joined: Dec 27, 2004 Posts: 11367 Location: Village of Idiots
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: GAO Report on the Peak and Decline of Oil Production |
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| Twilight wrote: | | I don't know. With that level of getting their act together, maybe we're better off with governments not addressing the problem? |
For my own part, I would rather "the government" please not get involved! I would like to see communities, groups, and individuals get involved, but not the government.
But that's because I expect them to crap it up for everyone, not help.
 _________________ "...powerdown so soft and fluffy you'll think you're living in a pillow..." - jboogy |
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Twilight Expert


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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:36 pm Post subject: Re: GAO Report on the Peak and Decline of Oil Production |
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| Ludi wrote: | For my own part, I would rather "the government" please not get involved!
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But that's because I expect them to crap it up for everyone, not help. |
Yeah, I'm starting to have doubts, feeling maybe I should be careful what I'm wishing. I always thought of energy as a challenge for central planners, felt frustration at the lack of urgency, up until a few days ago thinking even a late command economy response could soften the impact in the event the collapse was gradual rather than instant. But now the subject is appearing on the lips of government for the first time, I'm seeing ignorance (or maybe helplessness) which looks just plain dangerous. Maybe it's best if they went back to sleep, hitting an iceberg is bad enough without evasive action ripping machinery from its mountings. _________________ "The American people are watching the numbers climb higher and higher at the pump and they're waiting to see what the Congress will do." - George W Bush |
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MD Community Manager

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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 6:54 pm Post subject: Re: GAO Report on the Peak and Decline of Oil Production |
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Do Not Go Gentle Into That Good Night
Words: Dylan Thomas
Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light. _________________ "Don't ever become a pessimist... a pessimist is correct oftener than an optimist, but an optimist has more fun, and neither can stop the march of events."
Robert A. Heinlein
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