Like the illusion of Wall Street, with its vast and powerful investment banks, now shuttered, China too is an illusion perpetuated by the Globalists that gave us the 15,000 mile Caesar salad, poisoned cat food and lead based paint on babies' pacifiers. Like the illusion that money would come from thin air to always push housing prices higher, China has spent a generation pursuing its illusion. Pursuing an unattainable dream to be like the West, while 6000 years of its carefully shepherded top soil blows into the sea.
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Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 7:21 pm Post subject: Re: "The Secret": A Model for Cornucopians?
[quote="katkinkate"]Want more money? then change what you focus on. Instead of seeing the world as lacking in opportunity and feeling stuck in a dead end job, do the research to see more options and change your life by changing what you do. Get more training/education, move to a town with better job prospects, apply for better jobs where you are or start up a small business parttime to earn more./quote]
Expand the small business, float it on the stock exchange, set up factory in China, strike a deal with Mali for a cheap supply of widgetonium, discover a new found love for neo-conservative market politics, enthuse at the joys of spreading democracy to outer wogtonia!
It's all there...in The Secret! _________________ Bugger me, I hear oil's runnin out mate!
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:16 pm Post subject: Re: "The Secret": A Model for Cornucopians?
The Secret almost makes me want to propose book burnings. That is so dangerous if people truly internalize that thinking positively will solve all problems, bar none. _________________ Only a city man would carry a bag of iron instead of a bag of rice.
-Ling Tan, from the movie Dragon Seed, 1944 (more wisdom from Turner Classic Movies)
Joined: Oct 11, 2005 Posts: 258 Location: Southern USA
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:44 pm Post subject: Re: "The Secret": A Model for Cornucopians?
Yep. These are the same sort of people who will probably start their own version of a cargo cult in the Post-peak future. They will sit for hours in lawn chairs in front of Wal Mart in a vain attempt to entice the magic trucks laden with oil and goodies to pull in once again as in the days of Yore..
Joined: Dec 28, 2005 Posts: 299 Location: Toronto, Ontario
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:28 am Post subject: Re: "The Secret": A Model for Cornucopians?
I don't underestimate the danger that filth such as 'The Secret' will pose in an increasingly resource scarce and desperate world.
Last time I went to the barber, the woman who cuts my hair was raving on about this book. The basic idea is correct to the extent that whatever job you have in life, you're more likely to be successful if you approach it in a positive, determined fashion- provided you're willing to work hard at it.
The real danger comes when the idea from the secret is claimed to apply outside of the work sphere. No matter how hard you might want it, that big house ain't going to come without money from somewhere, and it won't prevent you from catching a contagious disease.
During that same haircut, the hairdresser claimed that the Secret even applies to winning the lottery! Very dangerous and deluded thinking... Overall, in a world where there is virtually no hope or comfort for the masses, I can see the appeal of a book like this as flawed as it is. The fact that it's been so widely acclaimed goes to show how people no longer care about our collective well-being and that materialism truly does rule all.
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:03 pm Post subject: Re: "The Secret": A Model for Cornucopians?
I hate commenting on something I haven't read, but this is just an internet forum...
This book, which I'm seeing referenced everywhere, permeating the air like a fart-smell, sounds like the very thing I LOATHE: PSYCHOTHERAPY.
If we just think the right thoughts, we cure ourselves.
If we just "create the correct legend of our childhoods," we " " " heal " " " our " "dysfunctional" " upbringings.
If we talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk (as only apes can do), about anything whatsoever that is bothering/paining/killing us, we can """CURE""" it . For a price, of course.
Joined: Sep 14, 2004 Posts: 6622 Location: Rural Virginia
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:53 pm Post subject: Re: "The Secret": A Model for Cornucopians?
There is a place for self-help books, and I've read some good ones (e.g., "Your Erroneous Zones," "The Road Less Traveled"), and they've helped me quite a lot at low spots in my life.
How you think can certainly affect how you feel, but it can't by itself create a conveyer belt of riches flowing into your bank account.
As usual in America, we take a basically healthy concept and inflate it, distort it, greedify it, jazzify it beyond all recognition, until it becomes hopelessly sick.
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:58 am Post subject: Re: "The Secret": A Model for Cornucopians?
Heineken wrote:
There is a place for self-help books, and I've read some good ones (e.g., "Your Erroneous Zones," "The Road Less Traveled"), and they've helped me quite a lot at low spots in my life.
How you think can certainly affect how you feel, but it can't by itself create a conveyer belt of riches flowing into your bank account.
As usual in America, we take a basically healthy concept and inflate it, distort it, greedify it, jazzify it beyond all recognition, until it becomes hopelessly sick.
The only self help book with some value is the Kamasutra _________________ I am a sarcastic cynic. Some say I'm an asshole. Now that we have that out of the way ...
And worse than the idiocy and the bullshitting is its anti-intellectualism, because that's at the root of the other two. Here's "The Secret" on reading and, um, electricity: "When I discovered 'The Secret' I made a decision that I would not watch the news or read newspapers anymore, because it did not make me feel good," and, "How does it work? Nobody knows. Just like nobody knows how electricity works. I don't, do you?" And worst of all is the craven consumerist worldview at the heart of "The Secret," because it's why the book exists: "[The Secret] is like having the Universe as your catalogue. You flip through it and say, 'I'd like to have this experience and I'd like to have that product and I'd like to have a person like that.' It is you placing your order with the Universe. It's really that easy." That's from Dr. Joe Vitale, former Amway executive and contributor to "The Secret," on Oprah.com.
I really don't watch much TV anymore or get out much. A couple of months ago I caught the first five minutes of an Oprah show in which she was talking about The Secret with my fiance. We both thought it sounded like bullshit and quickly changed the channel. I never would have dreamed that this kind of mindless and stupid thinking would become so pervasive. Now that I think of it that was very naive of me. If this is an indication of the kind of delusional thinking that will only get worse as things deteriorate.....
It's moments like this that I really fear for our future. _________________ In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations, and epochs it is the rule. – Nietzsche
Time makes more converts than reason. – Thomas Paine
History is a set of lies agreed upon. – Napoleon Bonaparte
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 12:31 pm Post subject: Re: "The Secret": A Model for Cornucopians?
instructor of 'The Secret' conned people into investing money in him and his schemes under seminars and instructions using 'Law Of Attraction' and 'The Secret'.
{Replaced extra long link with a short one - TheTurtle} _________________ people are going to persue whatever they percieve to be in their own interests and thats always changing because everything in life is in constant motion
Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 1:03 pm Post subject: Re: "The Secret": A Model for Cornucopians?
Wish I could look at that video but it wont let me. Says I need at least Internet Explorer 6. I switched from Firefox over to IE 7 and it still wont work.... _________________ In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations, and epochs it is the rule. – Nietzsche
Time makes more converts than reason. – Thomas Paine
History is a set of lies agreed upon. – Napoleon Bonaparte
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 1:03 am Post subject: Re: "The Secret": A Model for Cornucopians?
The biggest secret about "The Secret" is that it is not a secret at all. It is a often stated assumption of our culture, namely,
"The world was made for man to rule over."
"The Secret" implores you to think endlessly about your wants so that you go out and achieve goals society indoctrinated you to want.
The other great secret of "The Secret" is that it works. Obviously, we are sitting here at the culmination of 10,000 years of people's blind hope.
Do with that information what you will. _________________ EntropyFails
"Little prigs and three-quarter madmen may have the conceit that the laws of nature are constantly broken for their sakes." -- Friedrich Nietzsche
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