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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:42 pm    Post subject: North American Fuel Shortage Reports Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Dear US and Canadian PO.com viewers:

We have had some reports come in today on fuel shortages starting to show up in the US.

Since we have a global network of observers literally at our fingertips, please use this thread to report any shortages of fuel in your area. We did this with great success awhile back for the Europeans.

First person observations of conditions in your area are the best. Any news stories in your local area would also be good (follow guidelines for reporting news from outside sources).

Please Help keep the PO.com community informed about this important topic.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 2:57 pm    Post subject: Re: North American Fuel Shortage Reports Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

pup55 wrote:
We have had some reports come in today on fuel shortages starting to show up in the US.

pup,

Mind elaborating on this please?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 3:00 pm    Post subject: Re: North American Fuel Shortage Reports Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

AirlinePilot wrote:
Mind elaborating on this please?

I believe he was referring to this article Leanan posted in the Inventory Reports thread:

Denver area low inventory
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:43 pm    Post subject: Re: North American Fuel Shortage Reports Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Gasoline prices are shooting through the roof right now here. up 25 cents in a week.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:22 pm    Post subject: Re: North American Fuel Shortage Reports Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

birchm wrote:
Gasoline prices are shooting through the roof right now here. up 25 cents in a week.

Our local prices went up 20 cents since yesterday.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:56 pm    Post subject: Re: North American Fuel Shortage Reports Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/energy/article/0,2777,DRMN_23914_5507804,00.html

Denver running on empty
Low inventory likely to push gas past $3 a gallon

Shell is up to $3.3x for regular here now in the Arden Arcade area of Sacramento.

On a related note:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18358116/

Ford exec says April sales ‘terrible’ for industry
‘Hard time explaining’ why they’re so bad; GM starts incentive program


Looks like things are just getting started. Within 10 years, outer suburbs in general should be significantly less wealthy than they are now.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:35 pm    Post subject: Re: North American Fuel Shortage Reports Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

MA gas prices have been spiking up, only 2.95 for high test, but up since last week... And as usual this evening the crowds at the pump were just a line of people. Gas price isn't keeping people away...



A cool script for generating price charts for your state and time range.
http://www.massachusettsgasprices.com/retail_price_chart.aspx
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:15 am    Post subject: Re: North American Fuel Shortage Reports Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Filled up at a Shell station just north of Denver yesterday and every diesel pump had a yellow out of service bag over the pump.

Three of the premium pumps were also “out of service”

In another post I mentioned that I hadn't seen any shortages. Well, now I see them.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:22 am    Post subject: Re: North American Fuel Shortage Reports Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Sabibaby wrote:
Filled up at a Shell station just north of Denver yesterday and every diesel pump had a yellow out of service bag over the pump.

Three of the premium pumps were also “out of service”

In another post I mentioned that I hadn't seen any shortages. Well, now I see them.


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Shortage in gas supply may cause prices in metro area to climb

Last updated: 4/27/2007 9:44:14 PM

DENVER - In and around the metro area, plastic bags can be found wrapped around gas pumps at several stations.

Analysts say problems at oil refineries in Texas and Oklahoma, which feed Colorado pumps, are causing supplies to go down and of course causing prices to shoot up.

"It's been a strange year for outages and problems at the refineries. It's classic supply and demand. That's what we're seeing. The refineries aren't sending what they used to in Denver and it's coming at a time when more drivers are demanding gas," said Eric Escudero of AAA Colorado.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:08 am    Post subject: Re: North American Fuel Shortage Reports Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Denver without gas is toast.

The city is a sprawling mess, people have to drive long distances to get anywhere. Those of you from Europe would have a real hard time picturing the city.

Denver will be great test case for gas shortages.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:28 am    Post subject: Re: North American Fuel Shortage Reports Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I was reading another news story about the gas problems in Co. It seems that most of the problems are with Valero.

That I find very interesting.

Valero more than any other refiners has focused on processing heavy sour crude. They saw an opening in the market because most of the other major refiners are focused on processing the better grades of oil.

Remember too that KSA only has excess capacity in the crappier grades of oil that are harder to process.

These refinery problems and maintenance issues are only going to get worse has time progresses. You never save the good stuff for last as Simmons is fond of saying.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:18 pm    Post subject: Re: North American Fuel Shortage Reports Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Two chevron stations are out of fuel like every other week here in North Orlando. Owners say that they cant get the fuel because delivery schedules have been changed due to unavailability. I say they need a new distributer.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:02 pm    Post subject: Re: North American Fuel Shortage Reports Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Between $6 and $7 per Gallon here in Europe, and we seem to be doing fine. Smaller cars and less commuting by car does miracles you know. Somewhere around $10 per gallon though, and we will definitely start to suffer. Not to mention what "out of service" would do to us... Sticks and stones...
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 4:06 pm    Post subject: Re: North American Fuel Shortage Reports Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Yeah, well 4 dollars a gallon in the US will force a lot of people out of their cars and make them take the train to work.

Too bad we don't have any trains.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:05 pm    Post subject: Re: North American Fuel Shortage Reports Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Eli wrote:
Too bad we don't have any trains.
Sad


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