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Madpaddy Expert


Joined: Jun 25, 2004 Posts: 1983
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:59 am Post subject: Two or Three best energy saving devices. |
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I thought it would be a useful exercise for people to put down 2 or 3 specific devices they have found to be useful.
Here are my 3 and I look forward to seeing what other people have found good.
http://www.solaris-energy.ie/pdfs/FK2-ds11-05.pdf
These flat plate collector solar panels have withstood small branches falling on them in a gale. Top quality german engineering.
http://www.electrisave.co.uk
This is a useful device for educating your family on the electrical consumption of different appliances. It also shows the financial and environmental implications of your energy use.
http://www.megamanuk.com/catalogue/index.php
These are top quality CFL bulbs. I found the 9watt direct replacement bulbs for 50watt halogen spotlights particularly good. _________________ www.askaboutenergy.com |
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vision-master Fusion


Joined: May 18, 2006 Posts: 3914 Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 8:04 am Post subject: Re: Two or Three best energy saving devices. |
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I use a couple of these LED systems now.
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Sheb Heavy Crude


Joined: Apr 16, 2007 Posts: 218 Location: New Mexico
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 8:06 am Post subject: Re: Two or Three best energy saving devices. |
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| Madpaddy wrote: | | I thought it would be a useful exercise for people to put down 2 or 3 specific devices they have found to be useful... |
I'd have to agree with you on those...especially the PV Panel and Lightbulbs. Of course, the *best* will vary from person to person based on what each likes to do. Three others I can think of:
1.) Wind turbine. A caveat to the PV panel. Better Watts/$, but possibly less mounting versatility. Either way, having electricity is a good thing--it is only the having to have it that is bad. Plus, making a wind turbine from scratch, or nearly so, is well within the skills of most folks. Hmmm...can anyone think of a *cheap and plentiful generator source* in the future?
2.) Solar water heaters, such as: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140107796953&sspagename=ADME:B:AAQ:US:1
Heat is good, and not needing to burn something or use electricity to get is better.
3.) Well made hand tools. For old hand tools, Stanley has made some of the best. (Chisels, planes, augers, drills, saws...). Remember, wooden ships where built for centuries without electricity. While no match for a chainsaw, a good sharp bow-saw can cut through limbs and trunks with surprising quickness. Ditto for good axes and adzes. |
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kjmclark Heavy Crude


Joined: Dec 09, 2005 Posts: 305
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 9:37 am Post subject: Re: Two or Three best energy saving devices. |
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1. Bicycle. Unlike the lighting devices others listed, bikes save liquid fuel, the kind we're having problems with. Biking is also great mild exercise - with a basic proper fitting and anything other than a slow cadence biking is good for your knees while being great for your heart.
2. Ditto on hand tools. However, I would point out that a sharpened crosscut saw *is* a match for a chainsaw, is much less dangerous than a chainsaw, and makes a good family activity with more good moderate exercise.
3. A woodstove. Modern woodstoves are much cleaner and more efficient than their predecessors. They are pretty much carbon neutral, and if you use yours to also produce charcoal and put that in your garden, you're sequestering carbon *and* enriching your soil. At that rate, they are carbon negative. |
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Sheb Heavy Crude


Joined: Apr 16, 2007 Posts: 218 Location: New Mexico
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 9:48 am Post subject: Re: Two or Three best energy saving devices. |
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| kjmclark wrote: | 1. Bicycle. Unlike the lighting devices others listed, bikes save liquid fuel, the kind we're having problems with. Biking is also great mild exercise - with a basic proper fitting and anything other than a slow cadence biking is good for your knees while being great for your heart.
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Indeed, how could we have missed that one?! In fact, the bicycle will easily be one industrial age device that may make life in a post-industrial age easier than the pre-industrial ages--Heaven knows there are enough things that make it harder! In fact, to bicycle, I would attach any human powered conveyence, such as trikes, recumbents, pedal cars. Anyone seen the Gold Rush and Gold Rush II in the Smithsonian? They were 1 and 2 person bikes that hit roughly 55 and 65m/h on level ground. The key was the shell.
| kjmclark wrote: | | 3. A woodstove. Modern woodstoves are much cleaner and more efficient than their predecessors. They are pretty much carbon neutral, and if you use yours to also produce charcoal and put that in your garden, you're sequestering carbon *and* enriching your soil. At that rate, they are carbon negative. |
Another good one! In fact, I would add that a truly good one would be one capable of recirculating flu-gases to cut emissions. This would render it more capable of cleanly burning *anything* burnable. In the suburban areas...Anyone up for landfill mining? |
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aflurry Intermediate Crude


Joined: Mar 28, 2005 Posts: 802
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 10:49 am Post subject: Re: Two or Three best energy saving devices. |
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the bicycle may be seen as humanity's crowning acheivement.
it's usefulness is on the whole untapped. |
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Pops Moderator


Joined: Apr 03, 2004 Posts: 6372 Location: My Grandkids' Farm
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 11:56 am Post subject: Re: Two or Three best energy saving devices. |
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I’d say the light switch, the thermostat and a good pair of shoes.
They are cheap to make, pretty well ubiquitous but unfortunately, underused. _________________ Make a plan and work it: |
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shaunpagan Tar Sands


Joined: Dec 04, 2005 Posts: 21 Location: Wisconsin
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 12:26 pm Post subject: Re: Two or Three best energy saving devices. |
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I hate to mention this name because they used to be infamous for pop-up ads, but I use lots of X10 devices in my home.
Smart Home
These little devices allow you to REALLY turn off energy hogging devices like TV's, cable modems, stereo's, etc. when you leave the house or go to bed at night. When I cut the power to my devices that are already turned off, I save 93 watts. I've calculated that I save $74 a year just by cutting the power to my devices that are already turned off.
I know how much electricity each device uses because I have one of these cheap little meters. Under $25!!
Kill A Watt
I also purchased one of these reel mowers last year.
Reel Mower
I mowed last night and my 4 year old son followed me like he always does. I was able to have a normal conversation without shouting. |
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Niagara Heavy Crude


Joined: Aug 17, 2006 Posts: 424 Location: Mt. Hubbert Scenic Lookout
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 1:10 pm Post subject: Re: Two or Three best energy saving devices. |
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The Boeing 767.
Just 2 of these amazing machines can collapse 3 hi-rise buildings thus saving gigawatts of future electricity consumption |
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cynthia Heavy Crude


Joined: May 29, 2005 Posts: 347
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:11 pm Post subject: Re: Two or Three best energy saving devices. |
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I built a solar oven at the end of last summer so didn't get much practice with it but we're back in solar cooking season and looking forward to using the sun for many of our summer meals.
Solar camp shower bags. My honey and I shower nightly outdoors-under the pear tree or grape arbor. Presently looking for a clean, black metal barrel to make a permanent outdoor situation.
Rain barrel collection system. Using rainwater to irrigate all of our greenhouse plants and more.
These virtually free and handy devices keep life simple.
cynthia |
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vision-master Fusion


Joined: May 18, 2006 Posts: 3914 Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 4:24 pm Post subject: Re: Two or Three best energy saving devices. |
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| aflurry wrote: | the bicycle may be seen as humanity's crowning acheivement.
it's usefulness is on the whole untapped. |
Picked up a high tech state-of-the-art road bike this last winter (best time to deal). I figure I'll be riding a lot more & I'm betting prices are going to go up-up-up "down the road"! |
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JRP3 Heavy Crude


Joined: Oct 23, 2006 Posts: 391
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 5:17 pm Post subject: Re: Two or Three best energy saving devices. |
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| Niagara wrote: | The Boeing 767.
Just 2 of these amazing machines can collapse 3 hi-rise buildings thus saving gigawatts of future electricity consumption |
There are much more efficient means of collapsing buildings if that's what you want to do. _________________ The shovel with a wheel - The Wovel.
http://wovel.com/
Building the AMPhibian
http://amp-phibian.blogspot.com/
http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums/ |
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green_achers Heavy Crude


Joined: Aug 14, 2005 Posts: 359 Location: Mississippi Delta
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:17 pm Post subject: Re: Two or Three best energy saving devices. |
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The wheel, the lever, and the inclined plane. _________________ WWJD? What would Joel Salatin do? |
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SILENTTODD Intermediate Crude


Joined: May 06, 2006 Posts: 821 Location: Tustin, CA
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Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 9:34 pm Post subject: Re: Two or Three best energy saving devices. |
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| aflurry wrote: | the bicycle may be seen as humanity's crowning acheivement.
it's usefulness is on the whole untapped. |
Bravo aflurry! Could not have expressed this better myself! _________________ Skeptical scrutiny in both Science and Religion is the means by which deep thoughts are winnowed from deep nonsense-Carl Sagan |
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SolarDave Heavy Crude


Joined: May 19, 2005 Posts: 377
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:34 am Post subject: Re: Two or Three best energy saving devices. |
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Insulation. I cut my heatiing season in half and eliminated the air conditioner with extra attic insulation. With added water pipe insulation we now get two showers from one tank of hot water instead of one.
Skylights. We just don't use electricity to light the house during the day.
I second the Watt meter. Knowledge is power, in so many ways  _________________ Posted from a Solar/Pedal Powered Computer |
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