Record UK's carbon dioxide emissions

eXpat · Intermediate Crude Joined: Jun 08, 2006 Posts: 860

So much for Blair's "green" posturing, today the Independent revealed that UK's carbon dioxide emissions reached 10-year high, link here.

americandream

Part of our problem in recent decades is the tendency to engage in spin....and Europe is the prime culprit when it comes to smoke and mirrors.

I reiterate my position again in here....its Europe I would be wary of....it's where the power that is behind the global mischief we call capitalism resides and its where the grandest degree of mind control resides.

When you get to talking to your average European, you really get the sense of the crisis we are in....on the one hand they will extol the virtues of sustainability ad nauseum, but on the other, they go on blissfully slurping at the pig bin.

America may be wilfully cornucopian with an almost childlike single mindedness, the Europeans though take self delusion to another level....super spin....in the best tradition of the constant search for the super man...whatever that version of the locust is.
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Twilight · Expert Joined: Mar 02, 2007 Posts: 2971 Location: UK

In this area, statistics can be anything you want them to be.

As for European smoke and mirrors... sure, we're good at it. The elites of certain nations, as exemplified by the UK, have long taken a perverse delight in setting new standards in subtlety and evasiveness. Yes, Minister accurately portrayed a political system in which career progression depended on the extent of one's understatement and indirectness. It's just that in that past, this was pure performance, a mask behind which to hide a devious purpose. The current generation of politicians never grasped that the tradition was a game. Now it is adopted at face value as the way the job is done, as part of one's core professionalism. They used the tool of manipulation on themselves and believed their own lies. The fools.

Really it's every bit as tragic as Americans and their crude replica. The end result is the same, people twisting data, burying inconvenient findings, believing their own soothing rhetoric, no longer secretly understanding.
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Plantagenet

All it will take is a really deep economic recession or a major disruption in oil supply to bring the UK back in line with their obligation to reduce CO2 emissions under the Kyoto Treaty.
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Kingcoal

It's kind of like asking a woman what her weight is when you've never seen her. If she cares about what you think and she's insecure about it, she'll lie, if she doesn't care, she probably won't lie and if she simply wants you to go away, she'll tell you she's as big as an elephant! It's the same with nations; a lot of nations really care about being seen as caring about the environment.
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Plantagenet

The real problem with the UK, Canada, and other nations failing to live up to their Kyoto obligations is that when climate change starts to really be bad, and everyone finally is serious about a meaningful treaty to reduce CO2 emissions, another treaty will be very difficult to do because the UK, Canada, EU etc. have already shown they aren't trustworthy.
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Zentric · Intermediate Crude Joined: Mar 14, 2005 Posts: 730

Plantagenet

Countries who sign treaties accept certain treaty obligations. Good intentions don't count.

Its a simple fact that the UK, Canada, and most EU countries are failing to live up to their treaty obligations under the Kyoto Treaty.

I haven't given up hope. Maybe they just need another few decades to find their integrity and to keep their word.
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