THE State of Hawaii Thread (merged)

ohanian · Light Sweet Crude Joined: Oct 17, 2004 Posts: 1143

If you can, try and move to Britain and get British citizenship.
Apparently according to the movie Sicko, even if you are jobless and homeless, you can get free Health Care and they paid you to take a taxi to hospital.
Now that kind of medical service's is worth thousands of dollars each year!!!

Pretorian · Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:44 pm Post subject: Re: Is Hawaii best?

ILP, why dont you get a cash job? Get a pickup truck for example, move stuff here and there, it pays well. You can sleep in it too, no biggy. As for location-- I'd prefer HI bigtime. Especially if its not OAhu.

master_rb · Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:47 pm Post subject: Re: Is Hawaii best?

I_Like_Plants, I don't know how bad your situation is and i see your points as valid but your attritude is wrong, you're right that aparments are expensive but to reject a job because most money will go into rent is a "sin" in my opinion, you need to be more optimistic

smallpoxgirl, you want to add a little spice (irony) to your signature
LA Times go to paragraph 6 if you want to take quick shortcut

Pretorian · Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:52 pm Post subject: Re: Is Hawaii best?

Narz · Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 10:10 pm Post subject: Re: Is Hawaii best?

If you can scrap together a few hundred bucks a month maybe you can stay in Santa Cruz with me. Assuming we meet and like each other obviously.
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I_Like_Plants · Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 10:19 pm Post subject: Re: Is Hawaii best?

I think I can do up to $300 a month for sure, maybe a bit more than that.
The "godfather" of the homeless/performers there tells me they could sure use a caricaturist, they had one, a lady named Gypsy, but she's down in Monteray now.
Rents for a room down into the $400's show up on Craigs List all the time, in Santa Cruz, but pound the street and I think they get a bit cheaper still.

It has the advantage of being still in this general area, a good place for arts and performance, and a walkable/bikeable town. There's the boardwalk, the pier, and Pacific Avenue, plus probably a bunch of other odd little spots that would tolarate or even like a caricaturist.
What I've been doing, selling stuff on Ebay, takes a fair amount of room to store the stuff. Bring in boxes of stuff and it takes space to sort it out etc. The smallest space I've worked out of was 400 square feet. At $2 a sq. ft. you do the math. A room can cost $400 in Santa Cruz but I think I could find one for less OK, and all a caricaturist needs is some paper and pens and stuff. And some sort of musical instrument for a break hehe.

Tyler_JC · Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:55 pm Post subject: Re: Is Hawaii best?

You're talking about leaving one of the world's most expensive places to live (Silicon Valley) to move to an even more expensive area?
Cash in your plane ticket, buy a bus ticket, move to Kansas or Iowa or Virginia or anywhere.
Your incentive to go back to Hawaii (your sister) just vanished.
Unless you have some kind of decent job set up in Hawaii, you'll just be living in island poverty. Surely you can do better than playing a guitar on a pier.
And why are your wages being garnished?
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kochevnik · Intermediate Crude Joined: Aug 20, 2004 Posts: 881

Human beings somehow tend to get one idea - one path - stuck in their head and just can't seem to envision any other possibilities other than the very one they had in mind in the first place - so they ignore all the alternatives presented and plow blindly ahead.
This thread highlights nicely how this process works.
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I_Like_Plants · Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:38 pm Post subject: Re: Is Hawaii best?

About to cash in the plane ticket tomorrow.
I am making plans to head for flyover country as we speak.
In the middle-ish parts of the country, generally, you can at least get a job at the local hardware store or something and afford a small apartment or if really thrifty, a rented room. You're not having to always look over your shoulder, or work 60-70 hours a week. Fun might be simple, go to the lake and skip rocks. Friend of mine once told me back in Wisconsin, fun for the weekend was often, Who's getting married, go to the wedding. Slow-paced.
My pay could get garnished because of debt problems I have. Maybe.

truecougarblue · Heavy Crude Joined: Dec 21, 2005 Posts: 476

Narz · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:25 pm Post subject: Re: Is Hawaii best?

bobaloo · Heavy Crude Joined: Oct 14, 2004 Posts: 484

If it's just private debt (not government), most places have regulations about how much can be taken in garnishment, usually around 25 percnt or so, so you'd still have plenty to live on, even if they do track you down. Also, it takes a while to find you and get a garnishment order in place, so if you change jobs every 6 months you don't end up losing that much. In the low end of th economy many employers are thrilled to keep an employee for 6 months, it's not like the upper end of the economy.

Lots of guys out there have child support orders taking 25-50 percent of their pay and they're still making it, so my advice is do what you want to do and see if you can make the finances work.
I had a business that went under big time due to my poor choice in business partners. I went out of state and when I got back he and $100K were missing. I had a few really bad years, but I got back on my feet. Don't let one bad experince knock you out of the game.
Final option, befriend some migrant workers, I understand a new set of ID papers runs about $300.

lawnchair · Intermediate Crude Joined: Oct 20, 2004 Posts: 789

Depends on what you want.
My part of flyover country is probably not in the least bit kind to the homeless. The down-and-out, though, we're familiar with.
The few apartments there are go for about $250 including water and heat.
If your credit cleaned up some, a 15 year mortgage in a functional house should run about $250, too. Here's a listing of houses under $37k, just to make the coastals cry.

If you're healthy, you shouldn't *need* a car. The town is 1 mile by 3 miles and flat. Getting here or getting out without a car is a bitch, though.
Could you live on $500 ($250 after rent/mortgage) a month? Sounds like you've learned some thrift along the way. The economy may suck, but, if nothing else, Wal-Mart and Taco Bell are hiring. If you need take home pay of $500 a month, you'd only need to work 80 hours a month at such a crummy job. That leaves quite a bit of time to learn some skills.
So many things are so much cheaper. I pay $40 a month for non-employer-based catastrophic health insurance. $5000 deductible, so I'd go into debt, but survivable debt if something pretty big happened. It also gets me 'in the system' for negotiated rates, if I needed them (mind you, I haven't seen a doctor in 15 years). I tried seeing what similar plans would be elsewhere. For whatever reason, California was pretty affordable, but my same coverage in New Jersey or New York would be over $175 a month. Crazy.