We cannot drill our way out of this oil crisis. Since 2000, oil companies working in the U.S. have doubled the number of wells drilled per year.
Although increased drilling has added new oil to the nation's supply, it has not done so fast enough to offset the terminal decline of existing fields.
We are going to have to import more of our oil. Period.
Joined: Sep 14, 2004 Posts: 5684 Location: Rural Virginia
Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 9:27 pm Post subject: Re: Japanese beetles---a good reason to feel doomerish
Ferretlover wrote:
For general pest prevention, the mint family takes high honors. Peppermint (Mentha x piperita) repels ants, mice, flies, lice and moths. Pennyroyal (Mentha pulegium or Hedeoma pulegioides) wards off fleas, ants, gnats, lice, mosquitoes, ticks and moths. Spearmint (Mentha spicata) is also effective against many of the same pests. Between them they form a good first line of defense against almost any nuisance. Mint may be grown near a doorway or window in an attempt to secure your abode from without. Because the mints can be invasive, you may want to grow them in a pot rather than in the ground, lest you have another nuisance on your hands. The mints are quite adaptable in their site requirements. Tolerant of sun or shade, you may even be able to coax them to grow on your screened porch. They prefer more moisture to less, so use a large enough pot to keep them happy.
At best, JBs would avoid the mint and still go for the plants you don't want them to eat. I once read they avoid marigolds, so I planted marigolds near my vulnerable plants. Didn't work. _________________ "Actually, humans died out long ago."
---Abused, abandoned hunting dog
"Things have entered a stage where the only change that is possible is for things to get worse."
---Me and my brother
Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 7:21 pm Post subject: Re: Japanese beetles---a good reason to feel doomerish
Rooted around in some old tomes.The one from the 1920's said mix a jar of water and kerosene and place it away from the plants that are tastiest to these nasty bastards and have some sort of light source to attract them(may not be exact wording).It did not specifically mention Japanese beetles as one could assume they were not yet evident in the 1920's.It was just under the heading of beetles and generalized.I guess these beasties are attracted to the light and then meet their doom drowning in kerosene(yuck!!).I know someone else recommended a light source.The kerosene is the new solution.(in 1920)I wrote this more to amuse than inform I guess. Also to let you know some of us are still hittin' the books on your behalf.I have some books from the 40's I haven't looked at yet.I am not sure of when the invasion happened.I think I remember my Mom speaking about 'em attacking her garden in the mid-60's when I lived in yankeeland.Have to check on that.Keep fighting.Gives the rest of us sad sacks hope.
Joined: Sep 14, 2004 Posts: 5684 Location: Rural Virginia
Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:33 pm Post subject: Re: Japanese beetles---a good reason to feel doomerish
I know one thing: the Japanese beetle will be around long after we're gone. _________________ "Actually, humans died out long ago."
---Abused, abandoned hunting dog
"Things have entered a stage where the only change that is possible is for things to get worse."
---Me and my brother
Joined: Sep 14, 2004 Posts: 5684 Location: Rural Virginia
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:28 am Post subject: Re: Japanese beetles---a good reason to feel doomerish
That's approximately the right thinking, oowolf.
The JB is worse than all the other pests put together. I say that without exaggeration. _________________ "Actually, humans died out long ago."
---Abused, abandoned hunting dog
"Things have entered a stage where the only change that is possible is for things to get worse."
---Me and my brother
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:32 am Post subject: Re: Japanese beetles---a good reason to feel doomerish
Heineken: This might seem crackpot, and wouldn't apply to trees, of course, but what about turning this on its head and deciding that the 'JB months' are your non-growing season? Perhaps starting your veggies, etc, much, much earlier and having Spring as your main growing season, then treating 'JB Season" rather like homesteaders used to treat Winter - a time for non-growing and using up your stored, canned food? It would require a rethink of how things are done, but by the sound of it, you are at the end of your tether.
Joined: Sep 14, 2004 Posts: 5684 Location: Rural Virginia
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:52 am Post subject: Re: Japanese beetles---a good reason to feel doomerish
You make a good point, Laurasia. "Timed" plantings to avoid the worst phases of various pests have long been a part of the organic approach to gardening.
Alas, this strategy has very limited utility when it comes to the JB, since its primary victims of importance are, as you note, fruit trees, as well as other "fruity" perennials like grapes and berries. Also, the JB has an unusually long season.
Summer vegetables tend to be bothered less by JBs, in any case, with the important exception of corn. Planting corn very early or very late is a great strategy for dealing with the JB, and some other pests.
Some summer vegetables, like cucumbers and tomatoes, are practically invulnerable to JBs.
I've had great success with my three raised beds of strawberries this year. For some reason, the JBs have scarcely touched them. Maybe they've been diverted by my plum trees, which are in tattered ruins. _________________ "Actually, humans died out long ago."
---Abused, abandoned hunting dog
"Things have entered a stage where the only change that is possible is for things to get worse."
---Me and my brother
Joined: Jul 12, 2007 Posts: 7 Location: Outside Tucson, AZ, USA
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:00 pm Post subject: Re: Japanese beetles---a good reason to feel doomerish
You mentioned that you tried to use beetle soup, but you filtered out all the good stuff - the bug parts. It is possible that those parts are needed to keep the JBs away. It could be that chemicals in the bugs are not water soluble. It could be that the little carcases need to rot, in order to work.
My girlfriend suggests saying "Beetlejuice" 3 times in a row. _________________ Better lucky than good.....
Joined: Sep 14, 2004 Posts: 5684 Location: Rural Virginia
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 8:45 pm Post subject: Re: Japanese beetles---a good reason to feel doomerish
Unless you filter out the solids from blended JBs, you cannot use the resulting juice in a sprayer because the solids clog the sprayer nozzle.
I am certain that, after being put in a blender, anything in JBs that might repel living JBs goes into sufficiently liquid form to be sprayed, after the solids are filtered out.
Perhaps you're right about the "rotting" part, but I seriously doubt it. The juice I used was already pretty smelly.
My feeling is that JB juice simply doesn't work as a repellant, and that this method is just another JB old-wives' tale.
If it worked well, it would be common knowledge and everyone would be doing it and you could buy the stuff commercially. _________________ "Actually, humans died out long ago."
---Abused, abandoned hunting dog
"Things have entered a stage where the only change that is possible is for things to get worse."
---Me and my brother
Joined: Sep 16, 2004 Posts: 4011 Location: Southwest WI
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:21 am Post subject: Re: Japanese beetles---a good reason to feel doomerish
Not much longer and your exotic friends will be paying you a visit! Are you prepared
Hopefully i never have to contend with this damn bugs (i've already got enough problems). I think i have heard reports of them being in the Madison area (Milwaukee?).
I've got Rose Chafers to deal with. They love my sandy soil. I'll probably just pick them and throw them in a bucket of water like last year...squish them with my foot.
Maybe this year will be a bumper crop (of JB, that is)!
Keep us updated. _________________ "Oil is going up because we use too much oil, and the capacity to replace reserves is dwindling"
-President Bush 11/07/07
Joined: Sep 14, 2004 Posts: 5684 Location: Rural Virginia
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:35 pm Post subject: Re: Japanese beetles---a good reason to feel doomerish
Frank, I have completed "Japanese beetle protection structures" around one plum tree and three grape vines. Right now I'm building a second one around another plum tree. I have bolts of the "tulle fabric" on hand, ready to attach.
The two plum trees are forming fruit, so I'm really motivated to see how the experiment turns out. There is a third plum tree (a pluot, actually) that I may not have time to enclose. My goal with it will just be to get it through the JB season alive.
A full report and pics coming relatively soon! _________________ "Actually, humans died out long ago."
---Abused, abandoned hunting dog
"Things have entered a stage where the only change that is possible is for things to get worse."
---Me and my brother
Joined: Sep 14, 2004 Posts: 5684 Location: Rural Virginia
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 8:57 pm Post subject: Re: Japanese beetles---a good reason to feel doomerish
Jupiter, my computer seems to have trouble downloading those page images. Could you briefly summarize their content? Thanks.
I am close to the point of photographing my beetle-protection structures and posting the pics. I wanted to wait until the beetles actually show up, which hasn't happened yet. _________________ "Actually, humans died out long ago."
---Abused, abandoned hunting dog
"Things have entered a stage where the only change that is possible is for things to get worse."
---Me and my brother
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