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SchroedingersCat Intermediate Crude

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Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:37 pm Post subject: How about a Transition forum? |
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It seems to me that the more I look at the problems facing us from peak oil it comes down to the transition from a high-energy to a low-energy society.
The Planning for the Future forum has great advice for back-to-the-landers and some fine ideas from the hard-crash doomers. What about a forum for a good discussion about what the coming transition will be like? Skip the doomer/cornucopian argument and talk clearly about what might me the near-term effects of reduced or more expensive fossil fuels and how to mitigate or profit from the change that is inevitably coming our way?
Any takers? _________________ Civilization is a personal choice. |
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Shannymara Master


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Laughs_Last Intermediate Crude

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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:13 am Post subject: Re: How about a Transition forum? |
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| I think that if the Planning for the Future forum is deficient, then we ought to add more slow decline planning topics as new threads. The tough part is getting a good focused thread from one that started as a question instead of as an exposition. |
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skyemoor Moderator


Joined: Oct 16, 2004 Posts: 1415 Location: Appalachian Foothills of Virginia
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:00 am Post subject: Re: How about a Transition forum? |
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There are many threads associated directly with transition, such as mass transit, cycling, relocalization, food production, trains, and on and on. Yes, there are those who believe that the transition may be rough and/or chaotic. All seem to agree that we will be transitioning to a world were energy supplies will be a fraction of what they are today. That presumes that there will be significant changes in lifestyles that will be difficult for some to envision and even harder for most to commence. _________________ http://www.carfree.com
http://ecoplan.org/carshare/cs_index.htm
http://www.velomobile.de/GB/Advantages/advantages.html
Chance favors the prepared mind. -- Louis Pasteur
He that lives upon hope will die fasting. --Benjamin Franklin |
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SchroedingersCat Intermediate Crude

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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:36 pm Post subject: Re: How about a Transition forum? |
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It seems to me that the next 10-20 years are the most critical and difficult for our world to face. It is unlikely that oil will suddenly vanish. However, it will become more expensive and less available. The effect that this will have is unknowable at this point. Much like the peak, it will only be observable in a rear-view mirror. Fast crash or slow crash, planning for what comes after is vital. Trying to figure out how we get there may be more important to most of the people reading this board.
There are a number of things I would like to see discussed: how to influence local government, how to move to the productive side of the economy (now, not becoming a blacksmith post-peak;) how can a group of peak oil aware people make any kind of difference in the transition.
Just seems like it doesn't fit well in the existing forums. _________________ Civilization is a personal choice. |
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skyemoor Moderator


Joined: Oct 16, 2004 Posts: 1415 Location: Appalachian Foothills of Virginia
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Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:05 pm Post subject: Re: How about a Transition forum? |
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If you want to discuss a particular topic, start a thread. Again, relocalization, mass transit, and a host of other mitigations are discussed. We have to be inclusive of a number of scenarios, however, especially in the light of the 10 year minimum (with heavy commitment and involvement from government, industry, and individuals) for avoiding the worst of the decline. You can't expect everyone (or even most) to be optimists, such a forum would end up like the current PFTF. Come now, present your ideas and discuss them with the readership. _________________ http://www.carfree.com
http://ecoplan.org/carshare/cs_index.htm
http://www.velomobile.de/GB/Advantages/advantages.html
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Ludi NeoMaster


Joined: Dec 27, 2004 Posts: 12469 Location: zombie horde wonderland
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Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 2:43 pm Post subject: Re: How about a Transition forum? |
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| SchroedingersCat wrote: | There are a number of things I would like to see discussed: how to influence local government, how to move to the productive side of the economy (now, not becoming a blacksmith post-peak;) how can a group of peak oil aware people make any kind of difference in the transition.
Just seems like it doesn't fit well in the existing forums. |
Those look to me like they would fit fine in the Planning forum.
Just because most people who post to the Planning forum tend to have similar approaches, doesn't mean the forum has to be limited to those approaches.
I'd be very interested to read about those topics you mention. |
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