For a minute there I thought I had to get off my couch, when all the while the fact is we don't have to do anything much but keep things afloat for just a few decades more! In fact, we'd best shut up about PO, because if our offspring finds out we knew about it all along, they'll turn and wring our necks come 2036!
Joined: Sep 14, 2004 Posts: 6143 Location: Rural Virginia
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:07 pm Post subject: Autumn Weather 2007
I'm starting this thread as an extension of Tuike's "Summer Weather 2007."
Let us know what's going on with your weather, especially weather that might possibly reflect the impact of global warming.
Here in Virginia the drought continues; Humberto brought minor to no relief. At my location (central VA) we got 0.32 inch of rain, to be added to 0.22 inch received earlier in the week. Thus, a grand total of half an inch for all of September so far.
I've dug a few post holes recently and there is no visible moisture in the ground down to two feet. None---it's all dust.
There's no rain in the forecast for the next 10 days at least. But at least the 90s seem to have finally left us.
If the tree leaves descend and we still haven't gotten rain, the fire risk will increase astronomically.
Does anyone here live in the areas of the South that have been experiencing D3 (extreme) or D4 (exceptional) drought? That would be Alabama, northern and eastern Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky, and most of the Carolinas. If so, what's it been like? _________________ "Actually, humans died out long ago."
---Abused, abandoned hunting dog
"Things have entered a stage where the only change that is possible is for things to get worse."
---Me and my brother
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:26 pm Post subject: Re: Autumn Weather 2007
Heineken wrote:
Let us know what's going on with your weather, especially weather that might possibly reflect the impact of global warming.
Does anyone here live in the areas of the South that have been experiencing D3 (extreme) or D4 (exceptional) drought? That would be Alabama, northern and eastern Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky, and most of the Carolinas. If so, what's it been like?
I'm in northern Alabama, my brother is in northern Tennessee. Here in Alabama we've gotten some relief. Rain has returned and everything is green again.
In northern Tennessee it is still really bad! A bit of rain but not enough to make much difference so far. Grass crunches underfoot. We lost a TON of plants, lost money on a large corn crop that didn’t make half of what it cost to put out, plants I planted to prepare for PO are dust. Some things close to his house are alive, because they were watered, but that was tough because he depends on a spring for water and it is low. If it happens again next year, he is in trouble! Climate change is scarier than PO! How do I prepare for climate change? _________________ Everybody thinks they're righteous! Adam Baldwin "Jayne" Firefly/Serenity
Joined: Sep 14, 2004 Posts: 6143 Location: Rural Virginia
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:37 pm Post subject: Re: Autumn Weather 2007
Thanks for the report, Don.
It will take a lot of rain to end your region's spectacular hydrological drought. Even if it started raining normally there again, it could take many months, even a year or two, to end the drought in hydrological terms.
Have wells been going dry? Maybe it hasn't lasted long enough to do that. _________________ "Actually, humans died out long ago."
---Abused, abandoned hunting dog
"Things have entered a stage where the only change that is possible is for things to get worse."
---Me and my brother
Joined: Sep 16, 2004 Posts: 4275 Location: Southwest WI
Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:37 pm Post subject: Re: Autumn Weather 2007
The temp dropped to 32.3F @ my house Saturday morning. That is the just 2 days later then the record first freeze (13th) set around 100 years ago. Looks like warm weather will rule for at least the next 10 days around here. Only other strange thing is the total lack of a ragweed season. I never take medication, so i usually pay for it. This year it has almost been nonexistent compared to previous years. _________________ "Oil is going up because we use too much oil, and the capacity to replace reserves is dwindling"
-President Bush 11/07/07
Joined: Aug 11, 2005 Posts: 662 Location: Eastern NC
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:24 am Post subject: Re: Autumn Weather 2007
Heineken
thanks for the weather thread. Eastern NC did get some of the rain from Huberto. Cooler this week in the 70s. I'm getting my fall garden in as fast as possible. Nothing would germinate in the dry soil before Huberto
Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:19 am Post subject: Re: Autumn Weather 2007
Sorry to hear about your drought conditions, Heineken and other posters in the southeast US.
Here in north-central Alberta, it's been cool of late. July was furnace-like (for us!) and August cooled off drastically. September has been cool so far. We have had lots of moisture this year; I have had little watering to do, basically just the plants I have in containers and my vegetables during the July hot spell, in-between thunderstorms. My zucchini plants have been almost finished by frost already, the tomatoes are okay.
The trees here are quite golden already. I jokingly said to my family yesterday, "Who wants to guess at what the weather will be like on Hallowe'en night?" Things could turn around, but my feeling is that we're headed for an early winter, like last year. It'll be interesting to see if my prediction is correct or not.
Well, no relief here in Central and Southern Tennessee. Various rivers, including the Harpeth, are dry or not running. The spring on our property quit, the creek is barely moving. Friends nearby in Goodspring, TN who have a large farm/CSA had to call it quits for the year due to lack of water.
This completely sucks. My wife and I eat only local food, so when there's a drought, we don't eat. If it weren't for one farm lucky enough to have a good well/irrigation, we'd have to move somewhere else to survive.
Yep, I'm one of those who reside in the D3 / D4 drought zones....while we picked up approx 1.3 inches of rain this week, we're still down 14 inches for the year, and the State of Alabama is a bit ticked off at Georgia due to us protecting our lake levels....LOL. (If there is a Civil War II, it will surely be over water rights...this is much more a contentious issue than most people realize...)
Anyhow, while we have had some short-term relief, the parade of sunny, clear days continue, and I still can't fathom what it was like in the days of old when people complained about rainy weekends...the idea of two whole days of rain in a row just sounds so alien to me . So yeah, I will have to get some patch concrete to fill in the new cracks of my house that were caused by the dry ground (yeah, I know, it's scary), and just hope that it doesn't get any worse in the months and years ahead. As for the trees, you can see some of populars putting out new leaf now they've recovered somewhat from the tremendous August heatwave...if more rain falls in the weeks ahead, I suspect the trees will hold their leaves to Christmas...either that, or drop them all by Halloween.
One thing is for sure, people in these parts are taking climate change much more seriously than, let's say 2 or 3 years ago...and talking it about it a lot more, too. Theory is one thing, experiencing it personally is what makes believers out of doubters...
And boy, am I glad to see the brutal days of summer slip away into the slanting sun of autumn...it's about goddamn time, too...LOL.
* For the contiguous U.S., the average temperature for August was 75.4°F (24.1°C), which was 2.7°F (1.5°C) above the 20th century mean and the second warmest August on record.
* More than 30 all-time high temperature records were tied or broken, and more than 2000 new daily high temperature records were established.
* Raleigh-Durham, N.C., equaled its all-time high of 105°F on August 21, and Columbia, S.C., had 14 days in August with temperatures over 100°F, which broke the 1900 record of 12 days. Cincinnati, OH, reached 100°F five days during August, a new record for the city.
* The warmest August in the 113-year record occurred in eight eastern states (West Virginia, Kentucky, Tennessee, the Carolinas, Georgia, Alabama, and Florida) along with Utah.
* Texas had its wettest summer on record.
* This was the driest summer since records began in 1895 for North Carolina, and the second driest for Tennessee.
* At the end of August, drought affected approximately 83 percent of the Southeast and 46 percent of the contiguous U.S.
_________________ The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at-any-price, peace-at-any-price, safety-first instead of duty-first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life.
... Theodore Roosevelt
It's diabolical. What the hell is going on? _________________ "Thank you for attending the oil age. We're going to scrape what we can out of these tar pits in Alberta and then shut down the machines and turn out the lights. Goodnight." - seldom_seen
Joined: Sep 14, 2004 Posts: 6143 Location: Rural Virginia
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 7:18 am Post subject: Re: Autumn Weather 2007
Zardoz, you're right, something IS going on. Maybe the same thing that's shifted southward what few hurricanes there've been, or simply squelched them (a two-year pattern now). The abnormal Jet Stream and that massive High, I guess.
Not only has there not been much rain here all year, I've never seen so many sunny days in my life. Not just sunny, but CLOUDLESS. Might as well be San Diego here. We're stuck in another 10- or 15-day string of the damned things right now.
I'm very worried that, despite the cooler air and some spotty rain, the drought is actually intensifying.
Byron100 made an interesting comment noting that consecutive days of rain seem never to happen herre anymore. That's so true. In fact, old-fashioned RAIN (like you see in those old Hollywood movies) hardly ever happens . Instead, we get SHOWERS, if we're lucky. The word "rain" is disappearing from the weatherman's lexicon, I've noticed (except during hurricanes).
An ethanol-based economy could never work, not only for all the standard reasons we know, but because it would be hostage to a warming, drying climate. _________________ "Actually, humans died out long ago."
---Abused, abandoned hunting dog
"Things have entered a stage where the only change that is possible is for things to get worse."
---Me and my brother
Joined: Dec 02, 2005 Posts: 6284 Location: Oil-addicted Southern Californucopia
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 8:31 am Post subject: Re: Autumn Weather 2007
Heineken wrote:
...something IS going on...
The sat loop is incredible. It's like there's a frickin' force field surrounding the southeast states! It's mind-boggling. _________________ "Thank you for attending the oil age. We're going to scrape what we can out of these tar pits in Alberta and then shut down the machines and turn out the lights. Goodnight." - seldom_seen
Joined: Sep 08, 2005 Posts: 590 Location: Atlanta, GA
Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:32 am Post subject: Re: Autumn Weather 2007
Zardoz wrote:
Heineken wrote:
...something IS going on...
The sat loop is incredible. It's like there's a frickin' force field surrounding the southeast states! It's mind-boggling.
Yes, this is very worrying to me too...
This brings to mind a particular Star Trek The Next Generation episode in which Captain Picard experiences the memory of someone living out a whole adult life on a drying, dying planet. After much study as a citizen of this planet, he realizes that the climate is indeed changing for the worse, with each year becoming more dry than the last, and that their race is doomed, despite every effort to adapt to the increasing desertification of their world. And then he wakes back up in the Starship Enterprise, realizing that his whole "life" was a recording from a probe launched from this planet in the last days in an effort to tell the story of this dying world, albeit in a very unusual manner. One of the saddest shows I've seen anywhere...sure made me cry, that's for sure
So yeah, I have to wonder if this is what's happening to us...a slow death by the "Long Dry"....which is currently happening in Australia, Africa and of course, North America. And there is nothing, nothing at all we can do about it. Without water, nothing lives, and no amount of human engineering and technological development can save us.
If there is ever a good reason for me to feel depressed, this is it...what I call "the blue skies of death."
Maybe this is Mother Earth's way of running a fever in an effort to get rid of the human "virus"...if that's the case, then she's doing a mighty fine job of it....
So yeah, I have to wonder if this is what's happening to us...a slow death by the "Long Dry"....which is currently happening in Australia, Africa and of course, North America. And there is nothing, nothing at all we can do about it. Without water, nothing lives, and no amount of human engineering and technological development can save us.
If there is ever a good reason for me to feel depressed, this is it...what I call "the blue skies of death."
Maybe this is Mother Earth's way of running a fever in an effort to get rid of the human "virus"...if that's the case, then she's doing a mighty fine job of it....
That's some pretty scary sh*t, Byron. Here's hoping your weather patterns will change and you'll soon have some meaningful precipitation.
Up north here, I can't decide what's going on. Our July was the hottest on record, and we have had different species of birds showing up and greater variety of plants growing in our area. But then it really cooled off for August and now September, and signs are pointing to another early winter like last year. I can't figure out if we're going to be the future breadbasket of North America or if we'll enter a new mini ice age. I guess we'll have to wait and see what the North Atlantic Current does.
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. So yeah, I will have to get some patch concrete to fill in the new cracks of my house that were caused by the dry ground (yeah, I know, it's scary), and just hope that it doesn't get any worse in the months and years ahead. As for the trees, you can see some of populars putting out new leaf now they've recovered somewhat from the tremendous August heatwave...if more rain falls in the weeks ahead, I suspect the trees will hold their leaves to Christmas...either that, or drop them all by Halloween.
