Collective Burn Out from PO

kadoomsoon · Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:45 pm Post subject: Re: Collective Burn Out from PO

Plan your finances to live for five years, it won't hurt if there is a little left over.
Heinikn, come to Or. We grow mushrooms here. I just woke up and found a whole flower be FULL of diamond studded pufballs, and I said What is going on here?: And the neighbor goes, oh no, it is mushroom season, enjoy! (eat before they turn dark inside)

lots of berries and mushrooms and rivers and rain and fireplace and wood.
come. the move gives yo something to do, and it is exciting being near the ocean.

I am a little sad you don't belive in other scenes, so many religions have been spore bait sucking the money out of their people.

When you get sad, do this one thing, Go into the woods or outside at night see the stars, endless or feel the wind or hear the creek where it is quiet. Just ask, God, help me believe in who you really are.not the fake evil one who tortures people, the moneymaker, but in the one who made all these beautiful things. Show me who you are. Reveal yourself to me. That is it.

That is it. Then go for a walk.

Next time you have a chance remember what he said.
Those who come to me I will in no way cast out. He doesn't lie.

then read genesis, see how it goes.

The neat thing is we are all the same in his ind, if youmade something, and you are an artist that is exceptional, whatever you make is special.

anyway, don't worry how long, just remeber today only.
Quality..When a house fire comes, the artist always saves his pictures he drew first. If you get what I mean.

Anyway, the walk will always help.

SILENTTODD · Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:51 am Post subject: Re: Collective Burn Out from PO

mkwin · Intermediate Crude Joined: Jun 01, 2007 Posts: 596

MD · Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:10 am Post subject: Re: Collective Burn Out from PO

Heineken · Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:25 am Post subject: Re: Collective Burn Out from PO

TT · Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:56 am Post subject: Re: Collective Burn Out from PO

Heineken,

I have been where you are now. 7 years of terrible drought, devastating fires, crippling water restrictions, everywhere dust underfoot, garden plants dead and dried out.

Yet I have found that the rains do come again. Just recently we had rain. So much, in fact, that houses were inundated or even washed away. The pump houses at the catchment dam were washed away and bridges over the local creeks destroyed. That was in July and we have had no rain since. So we are back to drought and already bush fires are threatening.

I was depressed because I felt that I was powerless to deal with drought, fire and flood. But then I took some positive action. We drilled a bore, we installed another 26,000 gallon water storage tanks in addition to the 25,000 gals we already had. We installed a drip water system for the gardens which is very economical on water. We installed a mist sprinkler system on the roof for fire protection. We dug two huge dams on the property.

At first these extra tanks and dams were sitting empty, but when the rains came they filled and they supply us with enough water for a full year of house use and irrigation. We also have enough to share with the neighbours so they can grow a good vegetable garden.

What we did wasn't cheap, but didn't cost as much as you might think because we did most of the work ourselves and we now feel more empowered to deal with our changing weather patterns.

Look around and take positive action where ever possible. Even a little with help you feel more empowered.

Last_Laff · Heavy Crude Joined: Sep 16, 2006 Posts: 248

If the prices barred me from the travel from one place to back home, I'd pull out my bug out baggage and ride down the long journey across 3 provinces. If I have to.
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Heineken · Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:18 am Post subject: Re: Collective Burn Out from PO

TT: Thank you for your thoughts.

We're not used to severe drought around here, so it's more of a shock than a drought in Australia, I suppose. We're just not set up to handle it at all, but I hear what you are saying about taking proactive steps.

I may have to consider having my land (which is nearly all heavily forested) clear-cut. Then at least the house would probably survive a fire . . . although I've heard that burning cinders can blow long distances and land on rooftops. Since the woods may well burn off anyway, I could get some economic return for the lumber and not feel guilty. We may just have to shift to a regime of more open land around the house, which we'd mow to keep open.

It would be expensive to get rid of all those stumps, though, and grade and seed.

I guess in the future Virginia will look a lot more like Australia . . .
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pstarr · Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:09 pm Post subject: Re: Collective Burn Out from PO

syrac818 · Heavy Crude Joined: Jun 01, 2005 Posts: 113

I'm truly not trying to be an asshole here, because I realize I tend to do that around here. I'm sorry about the hard times many of you are having with this, I think we can all relate on some level.

But I honestly believe that the vast majority of people on here are predisposed to this type of anxiety and despair. When you're no longer capable to work because you believe Peak Oil will make it all irrelevant very soon - you have a problem. There is always, always a host of issues to be depressed about. If it's not Peak Oil, it's something else (bird flu, global warming, nuclear attacks, bio warfare, massive economic collapse, etc.). It's not necessarily that everyone else is unaware of it all, it's that they realize that this is the way it's always been and always will be. You don't have forever in this life. When it's taken away, you will wish didn't spend your time worrying about how awful it's all going to be.

TheDude · Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:07 pm Post subject: Re: Collective Burn Out from PO

JPL · Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:08 pm Post subject: Re: Collective Burn Out from PO

JPL · Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:40 pm Post subject: Re: Collective Burn Out from PO

BigTex · Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:05 pm Post subject: Re: Collective Burn Out from PO

I'll throw in a few ideas:

First, trying to emotionally and psychologically deal with something as big as PO is exhausting. Don't be surprised when you get exhausted. Just put it down from time to time and have faith that it will be there when you come back. Don't worry, it won't go anywhere.

Second, go to some yoga classes and/or learn about breathing and how controlling your breathing can give you a sense of control over your whole world.

Third, get enough sleep and eat good foods. Pretty obvious, but for some reason people don't do it.

Fourth, if you smoke, think about cutting back or quitting. You will get better mileage out of your body and your senses.

Fifth, be as kind to yourself as you are to others. If you're an asshole, think about changing your ways (even if assholery makes you happy, it takes a toll on those around you).

Sixth, cultivate a very dark sense of humor. I find that I laugh at things that make other people gasp. Everything I see on TV is just designed to upset me anyway--why not laugh instead? I am not laughing at others' misfortune; I'm laughing at what a screwed up world we live in. I was talking to my daughter last night about the Pyramids and how much effort went into building them and she asked "what did they do with them when they were done? Did people live in them?" I told her that, no, people didn't live in them, they put the bodies of dead kings in them. As I was telling her this I realized how stupid it sounds to invest that much effort into something so apparently useless. The world is full of that kind of stuff. Laugh at it. Or cry. Why are we getting rid of oil as fast as we can when we really need it for basic survival? Because collectively we are dumbasses. Ha ha ha.

Seventh, take a break from yourself. Step away from the window through which you are viewing the world. Loosen up your fixed ideas. Pretend you are an ant. Go to a movie in the middle of the day. Smile. Count your blessings instead of your curses. Accept people as they are and be kind to them (this will save a lot of emotional energy).

Eighth, listen to the music you liked when you were a kid. Call up a friend from your childhood. Watch a movie you liked when you were a teenager. Look at old pictures. Remember how you felt when you were less worn, when you knew less about the world. Drive by the house you grew up in, the high school you went to. Re-connect with the person you used to be.

Doom is a state of mind that requires one to move away from the center. Stay there too long and everything starts to feel unbalanced, even if the doom is real.

I've learned all of the above through trial and error. I am still refining most of it.