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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Another Record Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

This may have given the market a pop:

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Assailants bomb Yemen oil pipeline


SANAA (AFP) — A bomb blast damaged an oil pipeline in northern Yemen early Monday, halting the flow to the Hudeida export terminal on the Red Sea, a regional security official said.

Ahmed Fander blamed the attack on a "group of saboteurs" whom he did not identify, according to the official Saba news agency.

The pipeline has a capacity of carrying 155,000 barrels of crude oil per day from the Safer oilfields in Marib, 170 kilometres (105 miles) east of Sanaa, to the Hudeida terminal.

"The flow of oil was interrupted and the pipeline was damaged," said Fander, deputy security director in Marib, adding that an investigation was underway to identify the assailants.

No one was hurt in the attack, the latest in a series to target oil installations in Yemen.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Another Record Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Zardoz wrote:
The Washington Post says it's all the fault of those pesky traders:

Oil's Recent Rise Not as Familiar as It Looks - Traders, Not Political or Supply Concerns, May Be Pushing Fuel Toward $100

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In the past 10 weeks, the price of crude oil has shot up $25 a barrel, closing at $95.93 in New York on Friday, near an all-time inflation-adjusted peak. Unlike earlier spikes in oil prices, which came on the heels of war in the Middle East, this latest ascent does not appear to be linked to any one conflict or to any physical shortage.

Instead, traders who treat oil like any other commodity are widely thought to be driving prices upward, bolstered by a weak dollar and money flowing out of stock markets and other investment vehicles.

The comments are priceless. Nobody has any clue of what's really going on. They have absolutely no idea of what's coming. Imagine the shrieking and screaming they'll be doing in a few years.


This article makes accusations about traders, yet provide no facts to support this thesis. If you have free markets, there is bound to be some type of speculation - but I see no evidence here that speculators have more than a minor influence.

Also if you are going to quote Yergin, you already are displaying an extreme bias against accepting PO. Funny they did not mention that Yergin has been predicting lower prices for the last three years since oil was about $40:

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"It's hard to keep in mind that things do move in cycles and that the laws of supply and demand are unlikely to have been abolished," said Daniel Yergin, chairman of Cambridge Energy Research Associates. "High prices, particularly if they become very high prices, will catalyze responses in supply and demand, and innovation," he said.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Another Record Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

It is a very typical article that we have seen many times before.

It is funny when they try to make it sound negative that people are speculating in oil trying to make money like that is not the point. Jim Rogers said something very similar when he was interviewed on cnbc the other day.

There is an easy way to silence the people betting that oil prices will continue to climb, flood the market with lots of oil, that will bring the price down in hurry.

Actually we have seen record high oil prices for 5 years where is the supply in response? The only way oil is coming down is if there is a global recession even then I think we are past the point of no return on oil. I think it is burn every drop we have or people have to start dying.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Another Record Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

the speculation article must be BS anyway. I seem to recall if you trade oil futures the minimum order is 1000 barrels. Eventually sometime has to take delivery, so if 'speculators' are just bidding it up then they will have to sell to someone that can take delivery.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Another Record Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

The talking heads on cnbc have been saying this ten week run up is nothing but speculation and the mindless zombies are eating it up.
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Boy I wish they are right, seriously if all of a sudden we were awash in new oil that would be great and we could keep on just like we are.

CNBC and the rest of the pump monkeys cannot face what is coming head on it is going to be sheer madness.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Another Record Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Back up to almost $95
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Another Record Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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The silence of Saudi Arabia in the face of $90 a barrel oil prices is surprising -- but actually it speaks volumes. The kingdom has made it clear in the past that crude oil prices at these levels are not in the long-term interest of either oil producers or the world economy. Usually, it has tried to talk the market back down and has followed up those words with increased supplies, if needed. Its silence now in the face of the $20 rise since September suggests that it believes such efforts would be futile in current market conditions, or that it can not back up its words with actions that would have a significant impact on current price levels. If these implications are indeed correct, oil markets may be standing on the threshold of a new, more volatile period, when neither Opec, nor its Saudi king pin, are able to exert any meaningful restraint.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:33 am    Post subject: Re: Another Record Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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Back up to almost $95

$95.28. Ninety-five bucks "has support".
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 8:48 am    Post subject: Re: Another Record Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I spy with my little eye... $96.44
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:24 am    Post subject: Re: Another Record Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

And we chuckled at the idea of $100 in 2007.

Nobody's laughing anymore.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:32 am    Post subject: Re: Another Record Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Zardoz wrote:
And we chuckled at the idea of $100 in 2007.

Nobody's laughing anymore.


I've got this funny idea that we'll breach the big 100 after tomorrow's inventory report...
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:36 am    Post subject: Re: Another Record Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Zardoz wrote:
And we chuckled at the idea of $100 in 2007.

Nobody's laughing anymore.




Bas wrote:
Zardoz wrote:
And we chuckled at the idea of $100 in 2007.

Nobody's laughing anymore.


I've got this funny idea that we'll breach the big 100 after tomorrow's inventory report...





but but it fell back to 96.12 $ now

WE are saved !!!!!!!
hurray !!!!!!!!!!!!!


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:37 am    Post subject: Re: Another Record Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Or maybe sooner. North Sea oil platforms are being evacuated due to a storm, and the news about Mexico seems to be slowly dawning.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:50 am    Post subject: Re: Another Record Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Leanan wrote:
Or maybe sooner. North Sea oil platforms are being evacuated due to a storm, and the news about Mexico seems to be slowly dawning.


Why do I feel like it's new year's eve discussing $100 oil? :S


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