Like the illusion of Wall Street, with its vast and powerful investment banks, now shuttered, China too is an illusion perpetuated by the Globalists that gave us the 15,000 mile Caesar salad, poisoned cat food and lead based paint on babies' pacifiers. Like the illusion that money would come from thin air to always push housing prices higher, China has spent a generation pursuing its illusion. Pursuing an unattainable dream to be like the West, while 6000 years of its carefully shepherded top soil blows into the sea.
Joined: Sep 02, 2005 Posts: 3047 Location: In a Nigerian compound surrounded by mighty dignataries
Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 4:10 pm Post subject: Re: (small) business ideas after peak
We have amazing clay deposits 2-3 ft underground near our pond. I have actually kicked around the idea of a pottery class or two. _________________ Hair in my eyes like a highland steer, spring in my step like a white tailed deer. Hitch in my hip like an old sheep dog, puff up my chest like a big bull frog.-Corb Lund
Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:54 am Post subject: Re: (small) business ideas after peak
Cornelian wrote:
You know, I have a big old house and a big old garden in an area that may well survive any PO bad stuff - and all this for just little old me. It's both a positive and a liability. I've always thought that when things do start to get bad, I'd invite a younger couple or even a younger family in to share - and thus share out risks and benefits as well.
So ... anyone want a nice comfy bed and a big old organic garden in Tasmania??
I live in Launceston. I wish I knew more people here who are interested in peak oil! so far I know... zero
Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:48 pm Post subject: Re: (small) business ideas after peak
My great, great, great, grandfather made charcoal as a starter operation to raise capital every time he moved to a new homestead.
It turns out that charcoal is much cheaper than coal, and much more convenient to use than wood. There are various articles online as to how it's made. _________________ Cougar
"Use it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without." - Brigham Young
Joined: Mar 18, 2005 Posts: 2691 Location: Minnesota
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:47 pm Post subject: Re: (small) business ideas after peak
A flip-side to this topic should be discussed...what if people can't "pay" you for your product?
you should set up your business model so that they can work for you making more of the product you're selling.
Let's take clean water for instance.
I would need somebody making charcoal, somebody digging up sand, somebody chopping wood & somebody hauling & boiling water.
I could say for 1 hour of work I could give you half a gallon of drinking water (when their 1 hour of work adds 1.5 gallons of water to the pot). _________________ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes.
Joined: May 13, 2007 Posts: 655 Location: Athabasca, Alberta
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:52 pm Post subject: Re: (small) business ideas after peak
Blacksmithing is not an easily mastered skill, it takes a while to just get the hammer control.
For every 100 carpenters and potters there is one blacksmith and in every 3 blacksmiths there is one moderately proficient smith.
Also we must realize in a PO world there will be a need for charcoal and welding ( except for forge welding ) will probably be a thing of the past. _________________ Appuis ait fabrum esse suae quemque fortunae.
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Joined: Sep 16, 2007 Posts: 1469 Location: Oklahoma City, USA
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 9:52 pm Post subject: Re: (small) business ideas after peak
Propagating and selling food plants will become a big business, all local of course.
People who know how to card, spin, weave, knit, crochet or otherwise make cloth will be in high demand as the current stock of new and used cloth wears out. No more will be forthcoming once the transportation system winds down. No more 'made in China' for you! _________________ Conservation is conservative
It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the ones most responsive to change. -- Charles Darwin
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:34 pm Post subject: Re: (small) business ideas after peak
Please someone move to my island and be the local chimney sweep. There is only one person who does this job, presently, and he has to commute from a neighbouring island. He has the worst personality of ANYONE I have ever met. Seriously--hates people. Anyway the chimney creep charges about 100.00 per hour, he may charge me less if I let him sock me really hard in the jaw. I am not kidding, this dude should not be loose on the streets, let alone up anyone's chimney.
Thanks for listening, and if you're young, and agile, please consider it.
Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:36 pm Post subject: Re: (small) business ideas after peak
Here are a few ideas i've had:
-Pedicab owner/operator.
-With a bike trailer or cargo trike, you could be a personal shopper for the elderly, infirm, or lazy cornucopians who know that recovery is right around the corner
-raising rabbits or guinea pigs for food. Yes, thats what guinea pigs were originally domesticated for in Peru.
-scavenging and reselling stuff.
-Laundry service.
As oil production declines, most of the trends of the last century or so are going to go into reverse, including the trend towards more automation. There will be plenty of work to do, it just won't pay well. _________________ 'If a ruler hearkens to lies, all his officials become wicked.'
Joined: Apr 06, 2006 Posts: 3626 Location: 3 miles NW of Champoeg, Republic of Cascadia
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 1:17 am Post subject: Re: (small) business ideas after peak
Cobbler.
Learn about wild plants. Maybe brewing/hooch. A friend brought over some of his homemade white lightnin' and was saying how the poison in denatured alcohol is actually an additive - they add it to keep people from realizing how easy it is to make simple grain alcohol!
He gets his ideas out of the Alaskan Bootlegger's Bible, which is chock full of funky recipes, like making dandelion wine out of a bleach bottle. _________________ Cogito, ergo non satis bibivi
C'mon man, who're you gonna believe?
Joined: Apr 06, 2006 Posts: 3626 Location: 3 miles NW of Champoeg, Republic of Cascadia
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 4:56 pm Post subject: Re: (small) business ideas after peak
A banner? An image file, like this one?
Copy the URL of an image, then click on the Insert Image button - You'll be asked to paste in that URL, and voila. _________________ Cogito, ergo non satis bibivi
C'mon man, who're you gonna believe?
Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:23 pm Post subject: Re: (small) business ideas after peak
Nah, a banner (image) that is a link. I can create a link with other words. I can create an image. However, I haven't figured out how to create an image that leads to a link, yet.
Thanks for trying to help me. That was nice of you!
Whatcha think about this as a business? I was impressed with the idea, but I am not sure how it will work a little later. Aren't the components for solar systems going to increase in cost and become harder to get? I am not sure, but I was thinking that without cheap energy to build the systems....
Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 9:40 pm Post subject: Re: (small) business ideas after peak
wiki history of popcorn wrote:
During the Depression, popcorn was a luxury at 5-10 cents a bag, yet even when other businesses failed, the popcorn business thrived. An example is "an Oklahoma banker who went broke when his bank failed [and then] bought a popcorn machine and started a business in a small store near a theater. After a couple of years, his popcorn business made enough money to buy back three of the farms he'd lost."[4] In the time of World War II, Americans ate three times more popcorn than they had before because sugary snacks were in short supply due to rationing.
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