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Denny
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 10:05 am    Post subject: Jimmy Carter interview - still shining bright Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I saw an interview today on CBC Newsworld with Heather Hiscox. Jimnmy Carter, at age 86 is coherent, thoughtful and engaged with the inteviewer. He has really put a lot of effort ito this new book, and he paints a lot of the background issues as to why the middle eaast struggle will ocntinue ad infinitum., unless social circusmtances are changed expecialy with the Palestinians.

It is a startling contrast to George W. Bush. Bush seems to either unfocused or he is trying to score short verbal javbs, which often don't fit into the context, as if he's been coached on what to say, but poorly coached. Also, at times, Bush seems to fall into a vacant expression. I really wonder wonder if Carter is not more astute right now to be president than is Bush.

I would not be surprised if Carter has written more books in his lifetime than Bush has read in his.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Jimmy Carter interview - still shining bright Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Bush just follows Carter's lead:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carter_Doctrine
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 6:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Jimmy Carter interview - still shining bright Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

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Let our position be absolutely clear: An attempt by any outside force to gain control of the Persian Gulf region will be regarded as an assault on the vital interests of the United States of America, and such an assault will be repelled by any means necessary, including military force.
This, the key sentence of the Carter Doctrine, was written by Zbigniew Brzezinski, President Carter's National Security Adviser.

Serious stuff
We tried. Carter did not respond.
We wonder how the Iran matter will play-out.
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Ted G. Lewis is a professor of computer science at the Naval Postgraduate School and academic associate of the Center for Homeland Defense and Security master degree program. He has forty years experience in academic, industrial, and advisory capacities, ranging from academic appointments at the University of Missouri-Rolla, University of Louisiana, and Oregon State University, to Senior Vice President of Eastman Kodak Company, to CEO and President of DaimlerChrysler Research and Technology, North America. Dr. Lewis has published over thirty books and 100 research papers, and is the author of the forthcoming book Critical Infrastructure Protection in Homeland Security: Defending a Networked Nation, published by John Wiley & Sons, 2006. He received his Ph.D. in computer science from Washington State University.

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Morales and I are going to write a book our our 15 year, so far, legal project. I need book advice from Lewis.
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Yes, she was in Venice Biennal. She is also a political activist, and has made few short movies. Her father Timsar Ali Neshat was the commander of the Imperial guard during the Shah regime and was executed by IRI.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:54 pm    Post subject: Carter's speech on youtube Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote



The video is interesting to watch, but even better is to look at the comments. The amount of anger being displayed. I think we're very well into the transition from denial into anger as was said earlier.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Carter's speech on youtube Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

White house had solar panels on? wow
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Carter's speech on youtube Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I wonder if we'll hear the same speech from our next Pres?

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nah. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Carter's speech on youtube Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Jarzus Crist.

A 28 year, plain as day heads up.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 4:17 am    Post subject: Re: Carter's speech on youtube Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I remember that speech. The guy was ahead of his time. Maybe he wasn't the best president that we ever had, but he was dead nutz on about energy.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:19 am    Post subject: Re: Carter's speech on youtube Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Thanks for that post mos6507 Smile

I was aware of Carter's position, but hadn't seen that address.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:47 am    Post subject: Re: Carter's speech on youtube Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Pretorian wrote:
White house had solar panels on? wow

Ya- I heard that Carter put them up and Reagan took them down.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 7:54 am    Post subject: Re: Carter's speech on youtube Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Yes, I remember this speech well. It's too bad the Carter was such an ineffective president. Too thoughtful and indecisive; not given to action.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 9:15 am    Post subject: Re: Carter's speech on youtube Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Pretorian wrote:
White house had solar panels on? wow

They had Willie Nelson up on the roof too.
Must have been a fun place.
Mos, thanks for posting that. That's an interesting speech to listen to, both because of the things he was right about and the things he didn't seem to even be aware of.
The idea of "running out" seemed to be his concern, as opposed to supply simply being unable to keep up with demand. As we all now know, we will never "run out", it's just that eventually everyone will be priced out of the market. The last barrel in the ground would have a price no one could pay; thus, it will never be extracted.
If he had been able to get into his time machine and spend a few days in the present reading all of the research and discussion regarding the corrosive effects of high energy prices on the entire world economy, I'm sure that the tone of that speech would have been a lot more dire.
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