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EarthGamePlayer
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 Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 3:17 pm Post subject: Re: Bangladesh about to get smoked? |
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While I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with what Jack says, I would like to point out that what we are behind the computer screens is not necessarily who we say we are.
Just as studies prove that biggest homophobic macho dudes are often gay themselves (link) those who present a tough, un-empathetic facade, are often quite the opposite.
Who is to say what the person behind his on screen persona is like? For all we know Jack could be a nerdy 15 year old boy.
Talk is cheap. It's easy to be tough behind the computer. |
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emersonbiggins
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:06 pm Post subject: Re: Bangladesh about to get smoked? |
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Bas
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:22 pm Post subject: Re: Bangladesh about to get smoked? |
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| Fishman wrote: | | Um, Jack, Pakistan is two countries to your left. Bangladesh lies to the east of India. Pak is on the West. |
also I think that about a 150 million people would dance on Jack's grave reading his comments, and rightly so. |
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catbox
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:09 am Post subject: Re: Bangladesh about to get smoked? |
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And now back to Bangladesh getting hammered......
http://www.weather.com/blog/weather/8_14084.html?from=wxcenter_news
It's going to suck for those people.
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EarthGamePlayer
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:13 am Post subject: Re: Bangladesh about to get smoked? |
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Now a Category 5
This is going to be bad |
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Jack
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:42 am Post subject: Re: Bangladesh about to get smoked? |
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| EarthGamePlayer wrote: | Now a Category 5
This is going to be bad |
Well, that's a matter of perspective.
And Bangladesh is even poorer; given the water situation there (pre-cyclone, anyway), they may be more profoundly in overshoot.
Let us imagine, for a moment, that the cyclone dissipates. Not one Bangy dies due to the cyclone. So...what next? Food prices increase. Fuel becomes more dear. And slowly, over time - years - large numbers die due to starvation.
On the other hand, let us suppose the cyclone hits a heavily populated area while at force 5. Lots and lots of Bangies (and Bangettes) die - quickly.
Now which is the easier end?
Just call me Mr. Compassion.
But the real question is...should the party be scaled to hurricane size or casualty count? I wonder if the theme should be bangers and mash...with the mash representing mashed bangies. Decisions, decisions. 
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frankthetank
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:25 am Post subject: Re: Bangladesh about to get smoked? |
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Landfall is coming soon. Here is a link to the radar.
http://www.imd.gov.in/section/dwr/dynamic/dopplerkol-caz.htm
If they haven't started moving people, then i suspect death tolls will be huge.
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frankthetank
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:59 am Post subject: Re: Bangladesh about to get smoked? |
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http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/show.html
It has made landfall. Probably won't know the extent of destruction for some time. Looks like a 1000 fishermen are already missing.
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Andrew_S
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| Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:10 am Post subject: Re: Bangladesh about to get smoked? |
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Scores dead in Bangladesh cyclone
At least 242 people have been reported dead after a powerful cyclone battered southern Bangladesh, levelling villages and uprooting trees.
Officials have warned that the death toll could rise and that the extent of the damage is still unclear.
Hundreds of thousands of people were evacuated or sought safe shelter before the storm hit the coast, but some were left behind.
The storm was weakening early Friday as it passed through the capital, Dhaka. |
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skiwi
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| Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:13 pm Post subject: Re: Bangladesh about to get smoked? |
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The first report out I read had 1 killed then 28 then 200 now 600
Cyclone Sidr kills 600 in Bangladesh
| Quote: | Dhaka - The International Red Cross says more than 600 people have died in Bangladesh as a result of Cyclone Sidr. Thousands more are missing and tens of thousands are homeless. The authorities fear the death toll could rise.
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Updated already as I post
Bangladesh cyclone kills more than 1000
| Quote: | Earlier, a government official said reports were yet to come in from two districts known to have been worst hit - southern Barguna and Jhalokati - because of communication problems.
"We are expecting many dead bodies will be found there,'' he said. |
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Bas
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| Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:17 pm Post subject: Re: Bangladesh about to get smoked? |
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| Those are very plenimary reports skiwi, but it seems they "dodged the bullet" because the storm directly hit in the sparsely populated "Sundarbans" in the southwest. A similar storm in 1991 that hit in the southeast ultimately resulted in almost 150,000 deaths. (strange how Westerners can't remember that) |
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Andrew_S
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| Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:57 pm Post subject: Re: Bangladesh about to get smoked? |
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| Bas wrote: | | A similar storm in 1991 that hit in the southeast ultimately resulted in almost 150,000 deaths. (strange how Westerners can't remember that) |
One death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic.
(Stalin quote, supposedly).
Callous but true. How many people die each day, every day? A lot.
How many non-Westerners remember? Are we to be held as guilty for everything? C'mon. |
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Bas
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| Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:10 pm Post subject: Re: Bangladesh about to get smoked? |
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| Andrew_S wrote: |
One death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic.
(Stalin quote, supposedly).
Callous but true. How many people die each day, every day? A lot.
How many non-Westerners remember? Are we to be held as guilty for everything? C'mon. |
I didn't remember myself as a matter of fact. And it was not to hold anyone responsible for anything, not even for double standards. It's obvious that it's human nature to care more for the people that are closer and we can relate to more. It's a fact of life, though it's truly easy to argue it's ignorance and hypocrisy, so I'll take the middle ground between the two. And the same goes for me, Obviously there are some strong similarities between Bangladesh and Holland, moreso than any other western country (low lying delta country) so I can relate a little better to the country while finding it harder to tolerate Jack's comments. |
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EarthGamePlayer
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| Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:17 pm Post subject: Re: Bangladesh about to get smoked? |
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At least 1100 dead
Initial death tolls are unfortunately usually lower than the final count developing nations.
Have to love the elephant moving the bus though. Sign of things to come? |
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Zardoz
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| Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:54 am Post subject: Re: Bangladesh about to get smoked? |
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The 1970 Bangladesh (then East Pakistan) cyclone killed a minimum of 300,000. The actual total could possibly have been over a million. We westerners have now completely forgotten about it.
Wikipedia
The Pakistan Cyclone of 1970
They actually had two in 1991 that killed over 250,000 between them:
Killer storms
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