Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 3:30 pm Post subject: Re: "Loose Change: Final Cut" Watch It Online Now!
jbeckton wrote:
Micki wrote:
Lighthouse wrote:
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99% (including myself) don't even understand the physics involved neither the mathematics.
Maybe you do need to be an engineer to understand the facts because common sense has failed to do so. When bare steel reaches temperatures of 1,000 degrees Celsius, it softens and its strength reduces This is a fact. The steel would fail long before it reached anything close to its melting temperature. Not to mention that heat causes steel to expand which increases the stress on it.
Don't feel bad, Lighthouse, NIST had a bunch of qualified engineers at its disposal and had $20 million to work with. You would think they would be able to explain something in detail with all that talent and all those resources. Not so!
They have admitted they cannot explain the tower collapses. And it's been 6 years and their WTC7 is still not finalized. They know they won't be able to explain that one either so they've been stalling and stalling and stalling...
The National Institute for Standards and Technology has been forced to admit that the total free-fall collapse of the twin towers cannot be explained after an exhaustive scientific study, implicitly acknowledging that controlled demolition is the only means by which the buildings could have come down.
In a recent letter (PDF link) to 9/11 victim's family representatives Bill Doyle and Bob McIlvaine, NIST states, "We are unable to provide a full explanation of the total collapse."
A 10,000 page scientific study only offers theories as to how the "collapse initiation" proceeded and fails to address how it was possible for part of a WTC structure to fall through the path of most resistance at freefall speed, completely violating the accepted laws of physics...
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:47 pm Post subject: Re: "Loose Change: Final Cut" Watch It Online Now!
Carlhole wrote:
jbeckton wrote:
Maybe you do need to be an engineer to understand the facts because common sense has failed to do so.
Paul Joseph Watson wrote:
The National Institute for Standards and Technology has been forced to admit that the total free-fall collapse of the twin towers cannot be explained after an exhaustive scientific study, implicitly acknowledging that controlled demolition is the only means by which the buildings could have come down.
I think the typical engineer's perspective is that fire should create plastic deformation changes, not catastrophic failure. The buildings should have fallen asymmetrically and over some time, not at near free-fall speed.
It is nice to see that NIST agrees that there is no other reasonable explanation. It's ashame they are not explicitly stating the obvious, but I guess that claiming Al Qaeda placed the explosives would be a really hard sell.
In April, the team of presented a Request for Correction to the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), a lab under the Department of Commerce. This request was published in the June issue of the Journal of 9/11 Studies. The authors were James Gourley, Bob McIlvaine, Bill Doyle, Steven Jones, Kevin Ryan, Richard Gage, Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice
In their reply dated September 27, 2007, NIST states: “we are unable to provide a full explanation of the total collapse.”
And they expect the requesters to be satisfied with this response?!?
Remember, NIST is making these statements to men who lost family members in the Towers destruction… Bob McIlvaine and Bill Doyle, as well as to serious researchers Jones, Ryan, Gourley, Gage and the Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice.
Further from the NIST response letter: “NIST has stated that it found no corroborating evidence to suggest that explosives were used to bring down the buildings.” The next sentence admits: “NIST did not conduct tests for explosive residue…”
The Appeal correctly notes: “it is extremely easy to ‘find no evidence’ when one is not looking for evidence.”
A reviewer urged that the Appeal be published in the Journal with the comment: “the public should be given a chance to see the debate unfolding and how weak the NIST Response was. I believe [the] Appeal is more easily understood than the original Request and is valuable.”
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:20 pm Post subject: Re: "Loose Change: Final Cut" Watch It Online Now!
Carlhole wrote:
Further from the NIST response letter: “NIST has stated that it found no corroborating evidence to suggest that explosives were used to bring down the buildings.” The next sentence admits: “NIST did not conduct tests for explosive residue…”
The Appeal correctly notes: “it is extremely easy to ‘find no evidence’ when one is not looking for evidence.”
Yes, in fact the chances are quite excellent that they would find no residue if they never looked.
See no evil, Hear no evil, Speak no evil. I can almost see the three monkeys on the NIST letterhead.
I think some people are going to be going to prison for helping with the cover-up here. It seems like the official story is unraveling like the cheap curtain it is.
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OK, let's try this one more time. The last time I posted the movie, it was removed shortly afterwards. _________________ "May you live in interesting times"
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:30 pm Post subject: Re: "Loose Change: Final Cut" Watch It Online Now!
Loose Change is coming from a freeview Finnish tv channel right now. (JIM channel) Commercial brake time. It's split in two parts. Next part comes tomorrow.
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:19 am Post subject: Re: "Loose Change: Final Cut" Watch It Online Now!
Who is he kidding? There will never be a "final cut". George Lucas has nothing on this guy. _________________ Paranoia is demonstrated to be an infectious disease, and stupidity plus the internet its major vector.
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