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DeGeus battery technology - if it works, how does it work ?

 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 9:06 am    Post subject: DeGeus battery technology - if it works, how does it work ? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

*.doc
file describing battery


article source link, describing DeGeus' demise

"DeGeus was in fact the inventor of a thin wafer-like material/device that somehow specially aligned the atoms or electron currents ongoing in that material, so that the wafer produced a constant amperage at a small voltage – continuous real power, or in other words a strange kind of “self-powering battery”. It is actually powered by the ongoing and continuous tremendous exchange of energy by the active vacuum with the charges of any material. This exchange is exceptionally powerful, and normally our electromagnetic systems and devices only use just a tiny bit of it.

But as is known in physics, even simple materials (such as a simple short piece of ordinary copper wire) have extraordinary symmetrical cross currents ongoing perpetually, even when no ordinary “net” current is flowing since normally there is no asymmetry. E.g., quoting Swann:

"Think of the cables which carry the telephone current in the form of electrons. In the absence of the current the electrons are moving in all directions. As many are moving from left to right as are moving from right to left; and the nothingness which is there is composed of two equal and opposite halves, about a million million amperes per square centimeter in one direction, and a million million amperes per square centimeter in the other direction. The telephone current constitutes an upsetting of the balance to the extent of one hundredth of a millionth of an ampere per square centimeter, or about one part in a hundred million million million. Then if this one part in a hundred million million million is at fault by one part in a thousand, we ring up the telephone company and complain that the quality of the speech is faulty." [W.F.G. Swann, Physics Today, June. 1951, p. 9.] "

? ? ?

another "free-energy" device - or something real ?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:19 pm    Post subject: Re: DeGeus battery technology - if it works, how does it wor Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Occam's razor:

"The autopsy suggested heart failure"
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:51 am    Post subject: Re: DeGeus battery technology - if it works, how does it wor Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

1. energy can't be created or destroyed
2. entropy of an isolated system always increases with time

That article is hilarious, saying tons of free energy inventors are getting killed or suppressed. Anyone can go on post their invention online on how it works. People have and every single invention does not create free energy. There is an offer out there for a lot of money if anybody creates an invention that creates free energy, even if its a very small amount of energy.

Still, not one of these free energy machines to be seen in any county (not just the U.S.)
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:49 am    Post subject: Re: DeGeus battery technology - if it works, how does it wor Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Here is another saying which is true, INFORMATION WANTS TO BE FREE.

The same reason nuclear proliferation happens, something like working zero-point-energy can not be suppressed forever in a world of 6+ billion curious and enterprising souls.

In other words, if something can be done in somebody's backyard that can change the world, it either is on the market or soon will be. At the worst it will be kind of halfway out there and stuck in legal limbo like Cobasys and NIMH batteries.
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