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simontay78
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:49 am    Post subject: Re: "Inverse Generator" - Phase 1 Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

This is demeaning to even post here. I am just trying to help the situation by thinking out of the box. Mad

Hope you have fun preparing your own future.

Thank you for your criticism
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:57 am    Post subject: Re: "Inverse Generator" - Phase 1 Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

ohanian wrote:
simontay78 wrote:
The idea is to move the wheel by the strength of magnetic repulsion to be added to gravity plus inertia to rotate the wheel.

It's not complete yet since it's not automatic and still need a small hand movement to move the wheel. It's a big improvement from hand cranked dynamo.

Using windmill magnetic induction ideas, this wheel is possible to induce electricity to magnetic coils and create electricity...but for now I haven't implement that part yet since it's not automatic.

The benefits of this are it does not depends on availability of wind, sun or sea to generate renewable electricity but the "permanent" strength of magnet and now a small hand movement.

A youtube comment says if I line up a couple of wheels with some villages to "jerk off" movement, it had just "scaled" up the electricity generation at much less energy used!

I won't want a bicycle riding the dynamo future like in the movie "Soylent Green (1973)"


So the ultimate objective is to

(1) turn the wheel using the mysterious power of the magnet and gravity
(2) Hook up an electrical generator to the wheel to extract electricity energy.
(3) Enjoy the benefit of the excess electrical energy

Simon , did you really have a diploma of Electronic Engineering? Have you ever studied physics?

Do you really believe in this?

Let me tell you what you have.

You have essentially an electric motor which you power with human energy using your "jerk off" hand motion.

The amount of kinetic energy in the "wheel" is equal to (or less than) the amount of energy your body used up to move your hand up and down.

You cannot extract more electrical energy from the wheel than you yourself have put in. No amount of mental masturbation or real masturbation handiwork will ever extract more energy from your "inverse generator" wheel than what your body was already expended.

The whole idea is dumb to the point of STUPIDITY!!!!

It's like hooking up an electric motor to a dynamo in order to power that dynamo to generate electricity back again and claim that your can get more electrical energy than was put in!!!!

Wake up!!!! It's stupid!!!

On the other hand,
have you ever consider making this
into a sex toy?

A sex toy that produces electricity
from the power of masturbation?

Sounds rather kinky to me.


There is NO need to be so crude Mad
Everyone in here not offending others deserves to not be offended themselves.

This is however NOT a suport of the ideas to simontay. But at the same time it can be a god thing to have people challenge the accepted view of different things.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:59 am    Post subject: Re: "Inverse Generator" - Phase 1 Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Double post.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:09 am    Post subject: Re: "Inverse Generator" - Phase 1 Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

You have limited time, money and resources in this world.

Do not waste it chasing perpetual motion devices.

The only way to make money out of it is to sell it to other suckers.

Take your time and money and spend it on something more useful both to you and your dreams. Study physics, have a better understanding of the world.

Trust me, you are not helping the poor people of the world by wasting your time and money on perpetual machines. That's like trying to create a free lunch.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:00 pm    Post subject: Re: "Inverse Generator" - Phase 1 Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

ohanian wrote:
You have limited time, money and resources in this world.

Do not waste it chasing perpetual motion devices.

The only way to make money out of it is to sell it to other suckers.

Take your time and money and spend it on something more useful both to you and your dreams. Study physics, have a better understanding of the world.

Trust me, you are not helping the poor people of the world by wasting your time and money on perpetual machines. That's like trying to create a free lunch.


Thanks for your concern, ohanian.

I had blogged about energy crisis in 2 blogs previously that indicate that I am also just like many here, I believe strongly in Peak Oil and the effects are totally overwhelming.

In my country, we are net importer of almost everythings including oil & gas (100% imported) and also food (80-90% imported). Imagine my horror to learn about peak oil haha.

Read my blog and you can almost feel that I am desperate for a solution for my self. I wanted to save myself and hopefully the world. The idea is not to say that immediately the world will be saved but only save those who save themselves instead.


I even have my own Doomer Porn Story Competition!

My friend (cannot name him) is much much worst than me and his experiences in Iraq told him to prepare for the worst. He had spent 2k on food and bought 8 sets of solar panels and more! Many thought he had gone "nuts" and say he is "Chicken Little" and discredited him totally. (Sound familiar?)

However, I believe his actions may had helped him get the last batch of "China Pork" before the stock totally gone last few weeks ago in my country.

Many had jumped on any chance to migrate even! Those rich folks had long gone!

Peak Oil is so unheard of in my country that most will just brush off the claim and say it's another "cry wolf" or "Y2K" or "Dooms Day" conspiracy yet I had stick to my "believe" for almost 2 years until now.

Imagine my fathers horror to learn that I spent all my money doing sustainable development like my Solar Powered LED Lights to light up my toilets, living room and my room. I had tried but unsuccessful to grow indoor potatoes so that will be not my focus for now.

My latest project is to make a simple project that will simulate a windmill power generation by brush-less magnetic induction to magnetic coils using 3 phase connection. The Wheel achieve complete rotation by gravity, inertial and a small push by magnetic repulsion.

The wheel is just the first phase of sharing to the world how to DIY their own renewable energy and I am not going to mass produce this product to earn "big bucks".

I know through reading the transcript by "John Titor" the time traveler that in future there will be 2 kinds of power generation...one of them is called the "Inverse Generator".

"Inverse Generator" is named for the device is because it's a inverse of a Electric Motor.

"Electric Motor" uses electricity run through the coil to create magnetic flux or magnetic fields to turn a permanent magnet inside the coil to rotate it. (Electric -> Magnetic -> Kinetic)

"Inverse Generator" uses movement of permanent magnet to turn the wheel and induce electricity to the coil as a generator.
(Now Hand Kinetic -> Magnetic + Gravity + Inertia -> Electric)

I am not here to earn huge amount of money but to create jobs for people who want to learn and teach but I understand the skepticism.

I do not want any investment from anyone as all these are built by cheap materials which I will keep it cheap for DIY people to lean how to build it cheaply.

We must survive as long as possible regardless of the situation and not by ending up in starving ourselves or slaving ourselves for electricity.

Hope this clear up my intention and hopefully get inspire you all to do your own research to prepare DIY renewable energy as well regardless if it's windmill, solar panels or other types of renewable energy that does not disrupt prices of food, water and other source of essential fuels.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:50 pm    Post subject: Re: "Inverse Generator" - Phase 1 Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

gnm wrote:
simontay78 wrote:

as there is a part that need manual movement for now and not yet incorporate the magnetic induction portion of the wheel.


translation : you still need to turn it manually and it doesn't make power...




First thing I thought of too.

Now you're talking about messages from time travelers...you having a bit of fun with us, Simon?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:39 pm    Post subject: Re: "Inverse Generator" - Phase 1 Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

simontay78 wrote:
The wheel is just the first phase of sharing to the world how to DIY their own renewable energy and I am not going to mass produce this product to earn "big bucks".


I am looking forward to the next phase ! How many phases do you think there will be, simontay? Or, are the phases perpetual? Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:57 pm    Post subject: Re: "Inverse Generator" - Phase 1 Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Instead of wasting any more time on perpetual motion machines why not attempt something a bit simpler ... like cold fusion.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:15 pm    Post subject: Re: "Inverse Generator" - Phase 1 Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

TheDude wrote:
gnm wrote:
simontay78 wrote:

as there is a part that need manual movement for now and not yet incorporate the magnetic induction portion of the wheel.


translation : you still need to turn it manually and it doesn't make power...




First thing I thought of too.

Now you're talking about messages from time travelers...you having a bit of fun with us, Simon?


Inspiration can come from anywhere for naming a new object created by the owner Smile

Hopefully you know what I mean.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:23 pm    Post subject: Re: "Inverse Generator" - Phase 1 Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

dinopello wrote:
simontay78 wrote:
The wheel is just the first phase of sharing to the world how to DIY their own renewable energy and I am not going to mass produce this product to earn "big bucks".


I am looking forward to the next phase ! How many phases do you think there will be, simontay? Or, are the phases perpetual? Cool


As many phases as possible to enhance it, obviously I want to make it as fast as possible and as little phases possible.

Phase 1: Brain Storming and Testing
Phase 2: Implement induction of electricity circuitry
Phase 3: Enhance designs and measurements
Phase 4: Distribution of DIY Workbook & Courses ASAP to as many people as possible.

This may take too long unfortunately...hence not everyone can be saved on time.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:22 am    Post subject: Re: "Inverse Generator" - Phase 1 Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

ohanian wrote:
The SUX 2000 Kitty Magnet


so nice to see RoboCop themes perpetuating
through the culture.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:02 pm    Post subject: Re: "Inverse Generator" - Phase 1 Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

ohanian wrote:
On the other hand,
have you ever consider making this
into a sex toy?

A sex toy that produces electricity
from the power of masturbation?
OMG, it could power the internet! Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:14 pm    Post subject: Re: "Inverse Generator" - Phase 1 Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

and I thought he was blabbering on about a single phase machine...


Thanks for the comedy!
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