Like the illusion of Wall Street, with its vast and powerful investment banks, now shuttered, China too is an illusion perpetuated by the Globalists that gave us the 15,000 mile Caesar salad, poisoned cat food and lead based paint on babies' pacifiers. Like the illusion that money would come from thin air to always push housing prices higher, China has spent a generation pursuing its illusion. Pursuing an unattainable dream to be like the West, while 6000 years of its carefully shepherded top soil blows into the sea.
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:59 am Post subject: Would You Subscribe to Peak Oil Magazine?
If it proved interesting and useful beyond what the website already does today?
We were just wondering if it was worth pursuing as another way to expand the discussion.
Thanks for the input!
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:04 am Post subject: Re: Would You Subscribe to Peak Oil Magazine?
I think I would. What better way to get people to check it out but to offer a publication that people can read while on the can, in bed, having a coffee, waiting for an appointment......
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:25 am Post subject: Re: Would You Subscribe to Peak Oil Magazine?
I think it could be an interesting thing. Especially if it was a broad coverage of events and topics (from a PO perspective). Also good for leaving around the house for conversation starters.
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:58 am Post subject: Re: Would You Subscribe to Peak Oil Magazine?
Not if the amount of racism we have been seeing on here for the past year is reflected in it. No. I would prefer not to expose myself to that kind of ignorance.
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:13 am Post subject: Re: Would You Subscribe to Peak Oil Magazine?
There certainly is enough material. Peakoil.com is loaded with up to date articles, fleshed out debates, unique topics... Plenty of news to justify several years of printings. The material here is more useful and relevant then Mother Earth News. Plus as we shift back into a 1970's like time of high priced oil, interest is only likely to grow.
I can imagine it...
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Aaron wrote:
If it proved interesting and useful beyond what the website already does today?
I don't think it would even have to surpass the site in content, just in focus.
The site is an opportunity for people to get out every idea and get feedback. And the idea has come up before "why don't we write a wiki entries summing up every topic..." Well, because writing summaries on every topic is just too much work and won't do many topics justice. But writing articles on specific well discussed topics would be great. Moderators, editors or posters could very easily put together proposals for what content would go into a months printing. We could even have an articles forum where magazine articles are submitted, reviewed, and even edited.
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:45 am Post subject: Re: Would You Subscribe to Peak Oil Magazine?
I would not subscribe to a magazine when I can get the same content online without paying a subscription fee and without cutting down any trees.
What I would subscribe to would be a publication, either paper or web, that continually tracked world inventories, not just of oil and petroproducts, but also of wheat, corn, soybeans, and other natural resources that are produced using oil. Something like Worldwatch's Vital Signs, but aimed specifically at peak oil issues, and monthly. Beyond the EIA website, I don't know where to find that info. _________________ Just another tofu-munching bike-riding Rambo(/Rambette)
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:49 am Post subject: Re: Would You Subscribe to Peak Oil Magazine?
A PDF magazine/newsletter would be nice, to address the environmental concerns. I used to have misgivings about reading multi-page PDFs over printed material, but have gotten over it. _________________ "It's called the American Dream because you'd have to be asleep to believe it."
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:49 am Post subject: Re: Would You Subscribe to Peak Oil Magazine?
I originally voted "no," but I've been having second thoughts.
What I'd actually like to do is WORK for Peak Oil Magazine!
You'll need a good copy editor. Too many start-ups attempt to get by without one . . . and the product suffers accordingly in many ways I could list.
You'll need to develop a "style," a process I'm very familiar with. A style for a zillion details.
I'm doing some part-time freelance editing for a pharmacy journal now, and the money's good, but my heart isn't in it.
So, consider moi. 27 years formally in the biz, including 7 with Science mag.
Only proviso is I prefer to work with a pencil, not online. Somebody else has to enter the changes.
I assume this would be a monthly? Or biannual to start?
PM me if this goes forward and you're interested in my services. _________________ "Actually, humans died out long ago."
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:54 pm Post subject: Re: Would You Subscribe to Peak Oil Magazine?
I'm with emersonbiggins - pdf would be fine. Much as I like the idea of reading Peak Oil magazine in a doctor's office. Actually I always have a book with me and once killed time waiting for a chiropractor by reading the Long Emergency. _________________ Cogito, ergo non satis bibivi
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:05 pm Post subject: Re: Would You Subscribe to Peak Oil Magazine?
I definately would, there have been alot of books and also documentary movies coming out over the last couple of years but they become obsolete almost as soon as they come out. A monthly (or so) magazine would therefor be a perfect addition to the other media already out there. I'd love to help out too. Ofcourse we already have "Energy Bulletin", and I think if this idea was really to fly they would need be involved.
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:18 pm Post subject: Re: Would You Subscribe to Peak Oil Magazine?
MattSavinar wrote:
Hate to burst any bubbles.
Savinar, the uber-doomer - all is lost - there is no hope -world is going to end in chaos and despair - "hates to burst any bubbles"
The circulation might be low. But with a quarterly distribution maybe not. Kind of a summary of the quarter's news plus some other stuff. PDF doesn't work for me. I read PDF magazines but its hard to get others to. If it's sitting next to the toilet, people will read it.
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:28 pm Post subject: Re: Would You Subscribe to Peak Oil Magazine?
dinopello wrote:
MattSavinar wrote:
Hate to burst any bubbles.
Savinar, the uber-doomer - all is lost - there is no hope -world is going to end in chaos and despair - "hates to burst any bubbles"
The circulation might be low. But with a quarterly distribution maybe not. Kind of a summary of the quarter's news plus some other stuff. PDF doesn't work for me. I read PDF magazines but its hard to get others to. If it's sitting next to the toilet, people will read it.
Really, anything you could do with a magazine, you could do on this site for free. I agree with Matt. Even if peak oil were mainstream (which I believe it will be within 5 years), you don't need magazines anymore when you've got the internet. _________________ Just another tofu-munching bike-riding Rambo(/Rambette)
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