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State of the world: Shifting to sustainability?

 
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Graeme
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:00 pm    Post subject: State of the world: Shifting to sustainability? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

State of the world: Shifting to sustainability?

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Innovations from around the globe have environmentalists optimistic that we’re on the path to sustainability. A sustainable global economy would create both wealth and well being for rich and poor alike, while maintaining the global ecosystem that underlies (and makes possible) the global economy.

That was the message from the experts at The Worldwatch Institute, an environmental and sustainability think tank that unveiled its ‘State of the World 2008: Innovations for a Sustainable Economy’report January 9 at a press conference at the National Press Club in Washington.

The report, which is a 269-page book written by 19 authors from around the world, says two contradictory trends define the state of the world this year: Environmental degradation threatens the global economy, while a rising wave of innovation promises to create a sustainable global economy that will benefit both man and planet.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:01 am    Post subject: Re: State of the world: Shifting to sustainability? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I'd love to share their optimism but I'm a realist.

I think we're miles from sustainability, collectively we haven't even begun to rethink how we can live at a sustainable level and we're already pretty much out of time. We will invite massive warming whether we clean up or not, I don't like it but there it is.

This juggernaut is going over the edge of the energy\climate cliff.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:28 am    Post subject: Re: State of the world: Shifting to sustainability? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

How can we be moving toward sustainability when levels of greenhouse gases are continuing to increase, and at an increasing rate?

When melting of the world's ice accelerates?

When the Third World continues to industrialize?

When deforestation continues?

When human population growth continues?

Etc.

So far, "green" is a fashion trend, with little substance.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:04 pm    Post subject: Re: State of the world: Shifting to sustainability? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

We are moving towards sustainability....as the biosphere collapses, the human species dies and in a few million years a new ecology evolves. ;-(
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:36 pm    Post subject: Re: State of the world: Shifting to sustainability? Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

There would not appear to be any evidence to support the notion that humanity is moving toward sustainability. Quite the opposite.

We have oil, coal, and natural gas being consumed at far greater rates than they are being formed. We have fish stocks depleting so rapidly that species which once seemed bountiful are now faced with possibly even extinction - consider, for example, warnings over some varieties of tuna. We are chopping and burning down forests at an alarming rate. Some nations are increasingly turning to nuclear power, with the nuclear waste issue having still not been fully resolved. Water resources are being depleted, polluted, and mismanaged, and are projected to be unable to continue to support a growing human population. Food prices have been rising dramatically lately due to supply struggling to keep up with demand, with warnings that the situation may well worsen - particularly as the decreasing supplies of oil and gas impact upon our ability to produce sufficient quantities of fertilisers and other agrichemicals.

Joy over moves toward sustainability would seem to be, at best, misplaced and mistimed.
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