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Battle_Scarred_Galactico Intermediate Crude

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Joined: Apr 07, 2005 Posts: 970
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:05 am Post subject: Re: The Federal Reserve is Scared Silly (Doomer porn!) |
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| Ludi wrote: | | paimei01 wrote: | I think it's all planned, everything the rulers do leads to economic collapse - of the USA as I see.
- get people and country into debt, make dollar lose it's value, economic crash, "they" obtain their population reduction and also obtain people ready to do what the government says to "get out of the crisis"
Just a conspiracy theory |
Hey, it worked great for Hitler, at least for awhile. |
Yer. Imagine if the nation in question had the military power to destroy all life on Earth..... Hang on a second. _________________ "One minute I held the key, next the walls were closed on me, and I discovered that my castle stands upon pillars of salt and pillars of sand." |
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pedalling_faster Intermediate Crude


Joined: Dec 10, 2005 Posts: 763
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:10 am Post subject: Re: The Federal Reserve is Scared Silly (Doomer porn!) |
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| Cloud9 wrote: | | The military does not want the nations dead beats. During the great depression a post in the military was seen as a plumb job. They will take the cream of the cream and leave the rest for the CCC and WPA. |
One of the breaking articles this morning was about the US military relaxing its rules to allow the hiring of more - ex-cons.
But, that's now. this part - "During the great depression a post in the military was seen as a plumb job." - no kidding.
Actually, after April 2000 & then 9-11. the only
place i saw much job growth for techies was working for the government, for example at a defense contractor.
one silver lining - there's a lot of venture capital
going into energy technologies = jobs for techies. |
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anagami Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Jul 26, 2006 Posts: 1655 Location: Sudavasa Abodes
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:27 pm Post subject: Re: The Federal Reserve is Scared Silly (Doomer porn!) |
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| Battle_Scarred_Galactico wrote: | | Ludi wrote: | | paimei01 wrote: | I think it's all planned, everything the rulers do leads to economic collapse - of the USA as I see.
- get people and country into debt, make dollar lose it's value, economic crash, "they" obtain their population reduction and also obtain people ready to do what the government says to "get out of the crisis"
Just a conspiracy theory |
Hey, it worked great for Hitler, at least for awhile. |
Yer. Imagine if the nation in question had the military power to destroy all life on Earth..... Hang on a second. |
nah, extremophiles, cocoroachs and rats can survive various degrees of nuclear war _________________ anagami.net |
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Pops Moderator


Joined: Apr 03, 2004 Posts: 6375 Location: My Grandkids' Farm
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:39 pm Post subject: Re: The Federal Reserve is Scared Silly (Doomer porn!) |
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Perhaps some may want to look in on the Five Rules thread? _________________ Make a plan and work it: |
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Denny Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Jul 10, 2004 Posts: 1527 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:22 pm Post subject: U.S. Fed to remain "exceptionally alert" to econom |
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Seeing this article in New York Times - Federal Reserve Minutes I am taken aback at one line in their statement:
"'The committee agreed on the need to remain exceptionally alert to economic and financial developments and their effects on the outlook, and members would be prepared to adjust the stance of monetary policy if prospects for economic growth or inflation were to worsen,'' the minutes said."
"Exceptionally alert?" Uh, isn't that just their normal job? Aren't they always ready to adjust monetary policy to meret the circumstances? Or are they saying more or less, "We'll actually start doing our job, for which we are exceedingly well paid, instead of playing Homer Simpson with the economic levers of the nation." |
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waldo Tar Sands


Joined: Dec 22, 2007 Posts: 44
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:00 pm Post subject: Re: U.S. Fed to remain "exceptionally alert" to ec |
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| Like it matters being exceptionally alert to the approaching freight train. |
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waldo Tar Sands


Joined: Dec 22, 2007 Posts: 44
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:09 pm Post subject: Re: U.S. Fed to remain "exceptionally alert" to ec |
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| Like it matters being exceptionally alert to the approaching freight train. |
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mattduke Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Oct 28, 2005 Posts: 1161
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:51 pm Post subject: Re: U.S. Fed to remain "exceptionally alert" to ec |
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| It's just the open mouth committee trying to manage your expectations and therefore behaviors. |
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RonMN Fission


Joined: Mar 18, 2005 Posts: 2570 Location: Minnesota
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:56 pm Post subject: Re: U.S. Fed to remain "exceptionally alert" to ec |
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Exceptionally alert is a buzzword meaning they don't want to drop interest rates any further (or the dollar itself may collapse...which you can see is happening now, if you look at the price of gold).
they're doing/saying what they can to keep the game perpetuating (keep the ball rolling).
Can you imagine if helicopter Ben came out & said "Lock & Load..the zombies are on their way"? He CAN'T tell the truth...you can't handle the truth!  _________________ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes. |
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mattduke Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Oct 28, 2005 Posts: 1161
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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:51 pm Post subject: Emergency Fed Rate Cut Rumor |
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Rumor of cut "momentarily".
thestreet |
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mattduke Light Sweet Crude


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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:41 am Post subject: Re: Emergency Fed Rate Cut Rumor |
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"Talk of emergency rate cut hits dollar"
"“The rumour mill suggests a Fed cut today ahead of the meeting on January 30.” (today being Monday, 14 January, 2008)
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mattduke Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Oct 28, 2005 Posts: 1161
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Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:02 pm Post subject: Cleveland Fed Funds Futures Chart Eliminated |
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I (used to) like checking the Fed Funds Implied Probabilities chart available from the Cleveland Fed: Link
It has been changed for the worse.
It used to show how the implied probabilities changed over time. The graph has been modified as of today to contain significantly less information. It now shows only the "current" implied probabilities. In particular, I was interested to see the discontinuity resulting from the "surprise" cut. I am left to wonder about the decision making process behind this change. I can only guess that the information is "no longer useful" and that they are "saving money", similar to M3.
Does anyone have an alternative source of this information that shows these values over time? |
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MrBill Expert


Joined: Sep 15, 2005 Posts: 5220 Location: Eurasia
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 2:37 am Post subject: Re: Cleveland Fed Funds Futures Chart Eliminated |
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| mattduke wrote: | I (used to) like checking the Fed Funds Implied Probabilities chart available from the Cleveland Fed: Link
It has been changed for the worse.
It used to show how the implied probabilities changed over time. The graph has been modified as of today to contain significantly less information. It now shows only the "current" implied probabilities. In particular, I was interested to see the discontinuity resulting from the "surprise" cut. I am left to wonder about the decision making process behind this change. I can only guess that the information is "no longer useful" and that they are "saving money", similar to M3.
Does anyone have an alternative source of this information that shows these values over time? |
Maybe it is not the same, but I look at LIBOR rates as money markets reflect and anticipate changes in Fed funds. Right now the one year LIBOR is trading at 2.80% which is significantly lower than before the surprise rate cut. This implies more rate cuts to come. At least this is what money market traders are betting on. Also if you look at FRAs (future rate agreements) they accurately reflect future interest rate expectations. _________________ The organized state is a wonderful invention whereby everyone can live at someone else's expense. |
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mattduke Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Oct 28, 2005 Posts: 1161
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:28 am Post subject: Re: Cleveland Fed Funds Futures Chart Eliminated |
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It's back! Maybe it was a glitch due to the "surprise."
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FoxV Light Sweet Crude


Joined: Mar 02, 2005 Posts: 1337 Location: Canada
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Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:46 pm Post subject: Re: Cleveland Fed Funds Futures Chart Eliminated |
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wow, 85% of a 0.75% cut or greater.
Another 0.75% would be stupid and disasterous for the dollar. The only problem is, is that the market is such on egg shells these days, that if they don't get that 0.75%, the market will tank.
So a total rate cut of 1.50% it is.
The expectation is so bad that even a 0.5% rate cut; which is a huge cut to do within a week of a 0.75% cut (which is huge in itself) would hurt the market.
There's no way China and Saudi Arabia is going to sit idle through this
Gold: the other white meat _________________ Angry yet?
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